Unchained...nothing stays the same (but how do YOU use it?)

[Syzygian]

Well not to me is the problem I guess. It requires building a full Wrath stack of course. So assuming you have that, is Unchained BB combo better than Inner Beast + standard BB combo? If enmity generation is the goal that is. I like losing the Defiance damage debuff with Unchained. But then losing all Wrath is where it seems to negate that positive to me. I honestly do not know what creates more hate, but I know neither Unchained nor Inner Beast specifically state that they increase enmity (above and beyond that which any attack will create based on damage, I assume). Defiance, Skull Sunder, and Butcher's Block do have that extra enmity generation of course. Inner Beast also has the two nice buffs but could ignore those if Unchained provides a significant enough greater amount of enmity over IB.

This all assumes that you Infuriate on pull, which I believe all WAR mains do, at least when MTing:

BB+IB = (((150+(200*3.5)+(280*5.5))*.75)+300)*2.3 = 4812.75 potency of enmity.
BB+Unchained = (150+(200*3.5)+(280*5.5))*2.3 = 5487 potency of enmity.

WAR main correct me if I have the enmity modifiers wrong, iirc they are the same as DRK.

Unchained is better, by a lot, and over fewer GCDs.

I'm not understanding why you're worried about losing the stacks, I mean yeah, you're not spending them on an IB, but you are spending them on what is essentially a 25% damage increase (which is a lot) for 20 seconds...

[RojGardoth]

This all assumes that you Infuriate on pull, which I believe all WAR mains do, at least when MTing

I do not do this currently. I'd rather build a stack, then Infuriate to get a double burst. Or, better yet, have at least a partially built stack leftover from the last trash mob before a boss. I wouldn't be surprised if I'm wrong here too tho (see below).

BB+IB = (((150+(200*3.5)+(280*5.5))*.75)+300)*2.3 = 4812.75 potency of enmity.
BB+Unchained = (150+(200*3.5)+(280*5.5))*2.3 = 5487 potency of enmity.
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I'm not understanding why you're worried about losing the stacks...

Well, because I didn't have any numbers showing which is better in a boss pull, which, btw, thanks for those. Intuition is often trumped by data :P

So, 3.5 is EM for SS? Which would make 5.5 for BB and 2.3 for anything under Defiance? I'd assume all other numbers are damage except the .75 which is Defiance debuff. Interesting stuff.