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    What seperates a Biast from a Drake, and an Elbst from a Tursus

    I noticed that there are 2 types of dragons, both use the same model but one uses fire attacks and the other uses Lightning attacks (Namely Levenshower). There is also a more aquatic scalekin that has Water and Ice versions, but I want to know why and if there are any other differences between the two pairs (Drake/Biast and Elbst/Tursus)
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    My best guess is that they're different species/class?

    Drake/Biast-like creatures are scalekin http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Ca...Class:Scalekin

    While Elbst are wavekin http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Ca...:Class:Wavekin
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    Quote Originally Posted by myahele View Post
    My best guess is that they're different species/class?

    Drake/Biast-like creatures are scalekin http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Ca...Class:Scalekin

    While Elbst are wavekin http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Ca...:Class:Wavekin
    Maybe I should clarify. I'm well aware that there are differences between one group and the other, What I;m asking is what are the differences between a Biast and a Drake, as well as the differences between an elbst and a tursus.
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    Well you kind of answered your own question in the original post, are you looking for an actual lore reason?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morningstar1337 View Post
    Maybe I should clarify. I'm well aware that there are differences between one group and the other, What I;m asking is what are the differences between a Biast and a Drake, as well as the differences between an elbst and a tursus.
    Ah, ok. Well, I guess it's just as simple as them adapting to their environment. One specializes in lightning while the other specialized in fire. Kinda like a snow bear vs grizzly bear
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    Could be as simple as the diffrence between Dinosaurs and Lizards.

    That being not much but a different evolution chain. The Tursus and Baist having origins in Dravanian while The Elbist is a LA Noscan cousin of the Tursus and the Drake being the Thanalian cousin of the Dravanian Baist.

    All Dragons, but not all Dravanian.
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    I too was kind of thrown by the fact that you listed the differences yourself in the OP, but maybe a parallel is the best explanation.

    The difference in mob species isn't all that different from differences in the racial clans.
    A "dunesfolk" is just a different type of Lalafell adapted to a given environment.

    Ditto some mob species. Take the Coblyn, which I've finally figured out in the course of building the new (soon to be released) "Raimdelle Codex Alces". Coblyns that eat metals are blue (C. coblyn), coblyns that eat gems are dull brown (C. doblyn), coblyns that eat aetherial or crystalline materials are yellow (C. crystal coblyn), and coblyns reduced to eating ice and dirt in the frozen wastes are pale (C. zoblyn).

    But other mob species are dependent on other things, sometimes. The difference between a Peiste and a Basilisk seems to be gender, for example.
    Prior to the appearance of the wadjet, but that's beside the point.
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    Moose is right. The Biast and Drakes are different yet similar because of their environment and region. As mentioned as well from Chris above. Tonrak, too. It's a variation of species depending on the climate. It's like bats, for example. There are bats that eat insects, drink blood, feed on nectar, or eat fruit. They are still bats because of their genetics (albeit different because of species) as well as their skeletal system and different faces (nose, ears, mouth, and eyes). They also live in different climates and such, thus evolution and adaptation.
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    Ive noticed that Biasts are aspected to lightning and Drakes aspected to fire. With an exception being Zanig'oh. I'll have to see what the hunter scholar has to say about him, and if he classifies him as a drake or a biast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saiah View Post
    Ive noticed that Biasts are aspected to lightning and Drakes aspected to fire. With an exception being Zanig'oh. I'll have to see what the hunter scholar has to say about him, and if he classifies him as a drake or a biast.
    Keep in mind, that any Dravanian Dragons we're fighting are typically Nidhogg's brood and Nidhogg himself seems to have control of lighting to an extent.
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