So, I've been playing my NIN alot recently and I've been sat at the dummy trying to work out the best opener between Suiton on pull and DE>Suiton.

Suiton on pull seems slightly better to me, but I was wondering if anyone here could do (or link me to) some maths to give me a definitive answer so that I can pick an opener to stick with and work on 'gitting gud' as they say.

(also, what numbers should I be aiming for at 208/209 with thordan daggers/relic respectively? (VA chest))