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  1. #71
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    I think it's thanks to the PS3 version that the PC version scales so nicely, I'm running a 6 year old AMD CPU (Phenom II X2 545) and a low/mid end card by 4 years ago standards (Radeon 7750) and the game runs very smoothly, it's not odd for me to get 60 fps in 4-man content.
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  2. #72
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuwagami View Post
    1) you are the one saying that the PS3 playerbase is weak, when in fact most JP console players favor PS3 over PS4. YOU have to prove your claim, or you just end up using the burden of proof reversal fallacy. As for my claim, you just have to check the japanese market for consoles. PS4 has still to impose itself over PS3.

    2) JP players represent ~30% of the playerbase and are the main audience of this Japanese-style game made by a japanese devs team. They do not even need to
    Doesn't matter what Japan favors or whatever. The Video Game Industry consists of other Countries buying the video game and spending money. This game is not a big selling game, the units sold ps3/ps4 and pc combines isn't really big compared to the AAA game past few years. Ps4 is the best selling console fast pace over ps3. PS4 has about 30 million users and the amount of ps3 users is not even a factor when it's cancelled. There isn't millions of ps3 users playing the game.
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  3. #73
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    Quote Originally Posted by DragonSlayer45 View Post
    Other than the obvious fact that the PlayStation 4 wasn't even out when ARR launched, and the PlayStation 3 already had a large market compared to a platform that had yet to be released, they promised 1.0 on PS3 and that backfired spectacularly. ARR releasing on PS3 was simply fulfilling that promise.



    You might want to check your crystal ball again. PlayStation 3 is still getting tons of support this year in Japan, and as far as Square Enix is concerned, that's their main market.
    Witcher 3 and Fallout 4 PS4/PC only and sold a of copies. Wouldn't be impossible on a ps3. Ps3 on this game runs at like 5-10 fps. Graphics aren't the only thing that's holding this game back it's what else you can put into the game. A ten year old console isn't going to cut it in the next generation age. VR Support is getting added too.
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  4. #74
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    Quote Originally Posted by SonyTriple View Post
    Doesn't matter what Japan favors or whatever. The Video Game Industry consists of other Countries buying the video game and spending money. This game is not a big selling game, the units sold ps3/ps4 and pc combines isn't really big compared to the AAA game past few years. Ps4 is the best selling console fast pace over ps3. PS4 has about 30 million users and the amount of ps3 users is not even a factor when it's cancelled. There isn't millions of ps3 users playing the game.
    Japan industrie does matter a lot when editing a game with a japanese audience in mind, from a japanese company.

    Not to mention this game doesn't make money from copy selling but from subscriptions so the big factor isn't the future buyers but the current subscribers.

    The following is the only thing that matters, no matter much you might refuse to admit it : out of the 771k players FFxiv has, a significant part of them are playing on PS3. Significant enough to justify having the PS3 support.

    Now you can cry in corners and throw fits in anger, it doesn't matter one bit. Facts are here, and baseless opinions just fade away
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    Last edited by Kuwagami; 01-27-2016 at 03:31 PM.

  5. #75
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rowyne View Post
    I also remember Yoshi saying that Heavensward would be the last expansion to be released on PS3?
    Not to argue semantics, but I THINK the statement was that they would look into the playerbase, and determine whether it was worth keeping or not, after the first expansion. If PS3 still has a decent base in the game's market, there's little reason to potentially lose a portion of subscribers, with little to no revenue increase in the PC/PS4 market.


    That being said, on one hand I would like to see what this game can do without the PS3's hardware limitations, HOWEVER, I don't think PS3 limits the game as much as people think it does.
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  6. #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by SonyTriple View Post
    Ps3 on this game runs at like 5-10 fps.
    With hyperbole like this, there is no doubt as to the nature of this topic.

    Folks stop feeding the troll.

    Quote Originally Posted by lawlHT View Post
    The ps3s graphical capabilities aren't what people refer to when they claim it's holding the game back. 99% of the time they're referring to problems that arise due to the ps3s limited 512mb of RAM, which is a very serious limitation on a game of this scope
    256MB was explicitly partitioned for the RSX, CellBE has 256MB. Much like the PS2, PS3 was a beast for through-put, but has strict memory limits.

    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie-Amber View Post
    Really I hope they drop ps3 support soon cause its like such an outdated console that is majorly holding this game back.

    Why dosent it look much better on ps4 compaired to ps3 you say? the simple answer is the fact that the game is the same just made for simple console compatability.

    example think playing a ps3 game on your ps4 does it look any better?

    I rest my case.
    Rest your case, but you're badly wrong. PS4 version is damn near idntical to the PC version with GPU defaults hardcoded, the PS3 version is totally separate. FFXIV on a PS4 looks great, comparing to PS3 is akin to comparing 1080p video to 480i...
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    Last edited by Kosmos992k; 01-27-2016 at 05:48 PM.

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  8. #77
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    Hi, for all those PS3 defenders. (And I have one too, and also the game there)....

    Don't use a 2014 game with a 2006 hardware.



    I said it, now, stop complaining because we don't need anything else to say in the matter. I tested with my ps3 and... Only managed to play one day... Like, really, even dodging a simple aoe is sloppy... Does anyone know of a endgame raider using Ps3?
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  9. #78
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    and again people failed to get my post. the game engine is from 1.0 and all that was around the ps3 life time so really there is no need to drop ps3 surpport if the engine is still as old as that console cause nothing major will change.

    No I dont use consoles but from what i read there isent any major differences between ps3 and ps4 version apart from ps4 can show far more things on screen while ps3 glitches.

    ps4 may look alittle better and the pc far better cause we have dx11 but the base game engine is still as old as the ps3 technically speaking. the flaws are not the ps3 its the engine you all and if that don't change theres no point in killing off ps3 surpport.
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  10. #79
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    Quote Originally Posted by l---------------l View Post
    Don't use a 2014 game with a 2006 hardware.
    Will you offer a PS4 or a brand new PC to all those players ? No ?
    Then deal with it...

    Oh, and by the way...we play a 2013 game....so before PS4 was even released
    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie-Amber View Post
    the game engine is from 1.0
    No, it's not. 1.0 engine was much much better...but couldn't run smoothly on anything but top PC.
    2.0 engine was redone from scratch to specifically work well on "low" hardware...yet was still created during PS3 era

    And PS3 doesn't "glitch".
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    Last edited by Reynhart; 01-27-2016 at 09:54 PM.

  11. #80
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    well i never played 1.0 so basicly the engine got nerfed for arr? wow no wonder it still plays well on ps3 then.
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