When is the PS3 Version going to get cancelled?

[DragonFlyy]

The PS3 version should be discontinued sooner than later. Why should we care about people who're holding the others back? I hate when people slow down the others and want the others to wait for them instead of making themselves faster.

PS3 isn't holding anything back except maybe some Interface improvements. Even then it could be separated from the PC/PS4 versions. They already have done this. So no, the PS3 is a scapegoat, not a reason. Dropping it would kill part of their user base, and in turn their income. The major thing holding most requests back is server to client communication. So blame the architecture, and while blaming it, realize it isn't going to change without a major overhaul (which again will cost money that they don't see a need to spend.)

[raymon]

what is the PS3 version holding back? graphics? i don't think so as PC users got DX11. inventory? thats server issues as no items in your inventory are stored in you console. so what exactly is the PS3 stopping PC/PS4 users from getting?

[The_Last_Dragoon]

PS3 isn't holding anything back except maybe some Interface improvements...

Actually... there's a pretty big difference between a PS3's processor and a PS4's. This becomes VERY apparent when you are doing large scale FATEs or Hunts since there are instances where you can't even see most of the players or even the target of the Fate or Hunt. This issue is non-existent on the PS4 and would probably require the entire server to be in one place to actually hiccup. The most likely scenario is that PS3 will continue to support ARR & Heavensward content, but more than likely, they will not be included in the next expansion (probably 2017-ish). This way, people who are still on the PS3 can continue to enjoy those parts of the FFXIV game without them having to make new content tailored to be usable by a console which by that time would be over 10 years old.

[TaurielKyudo]

This issue is non-existent on the PS4 and would probably require the entire server to be in one place to actually hiccup.

First post ever here! I'm a PS4 player, as are most of my friends who play the game. The issue of large FATEs and hunts not appearing happens ALL the time in my experience. Even with a hunt with 50-100 people (not entire servers), I've haven't been able to see the majority of people or the bosses (especially when they're in tight places). So in reality PS4 has the same issues like the PS3 (I experience slow load times too), just not as much. So I guess I'm throwing my lot in with those who say PS3 isn't really holding the game back at all.

If you don't play on PS3, you don't have to worry about the small problems that PS3 players face, so just be happy with your game and get excited about the new patches

[Malzian]

As someone said earlier of the anti-PS3 nonsense, you are adopting a very western centric view. There are in fact plenty of games on Vita for other regions, Japan/Asia in particular. Which works out very well for gamers who want their JRPG and other genre typical of Japanese gaming.

The cost of a 32GB memory card is a one off investment that pays dividends. When people routinely throw away $600 on the latest iPhone that can't even take a memory card of any kind, it's pretty silly to complain about the cost of Vita.

I actually do own a Vita, and bought it when the naive promise that Sega was going to release PSO2 here for it on the Vita, a promise that hasn't played out very well.

Now, as far as the statement about the price of the console goes... you're missing core details which change the valuation of that media I mentioned quite strongly.

First, yes it is compared well against the price of Smartphones, however... the Vita is not a smartphone. It it a personal, handheld gaming device whose main competition in the hand-held market is the DS and 3DS. They are reasonably priced against each other on the baseline, until you realize that if you want to do any of the wonderful downloading of games (that the 3DS does natively, mind you), you must have one of their memory cards. Note that the base $199 WiFi unit does not come with a memory card so you will be required to buy at least the 16GB one unless you got the bundle that comes with an 8GB (which why wouldn't you since you get the card and a game for the same price?).

The problem beyond that lies not so much in the price of the memory cards, themselves, but the fact that the cards are little more than SD cards in a proprietary form-factor which means you can't use standard SD cards with them even though the internal specs are virtually the same. What does that mean? Standard 16GB SanDisk SD Card is $8.44 on Amazon. 16GB Vita card is $34.99. That is 4x the price... for what is basically the same tech squeezed into a different box where the "box" has all the specialized functionality of a SD Micro adapter (which, by the way, is only like $4 so you bring the price of the SD card to $12 and the Vita card is still nearly 3x the cost).

Vita had all the chances to be a good product, and honestly it is a powerful system and I would have loved to have seen more from it then we have. However, despite the system being more economically priced now (it was much more than $199 on release), the cost of those cards in addition to the lack of any real content released on it were a downright killer and have kept it from gaining any real traction in the market.

[myahele]

Assuming the next expansion will be in mid 2017 then that's about the right amount of time for the PS3 users to upgrade to PS4. The price should have gone down and plenty of used one available if anything.

[Nirvashcloak]

At least keep it on ps3 till November of 2016 I'll have a ps4 by then

[Kosmos992k]

Now, as far as the statement about the price of the console goes... you're missing core details which change the valuation of that media I mentioned quite strongly.

The problem beyond that lies not so much in the price of the memory cards, themselves, but the fact that the cards are little more than SD cards in a proprietary form-factor which means you can't use standard SD cards with them even though the internal specs are virtually the same.

Actually, that has nothing to do with the issue of 'value' of the card. The cards are the primary mode of storage for the Vita. Yes, an absolute comparison against 1 specific form of flash memory SD cards makes the Vita's memory look poor, that's not entirely true compared to other memory formats.You also skip over the fact that those full size SD cards you mention are at fire sale prices, while Micro-SD cards (the current standard) are more expensive. However, this is all fiddling at the fringe.

Yes, you can poke fun at the cost of the storage media, but a fully decked out Vita with 32GB was still far less than an iphone. Try playing shooters without sticks and buttons. Smartphones are fine for certain types of games but fall flat on their face hard when 'serious' games come up.

The point though that I was making was that the Vita failed to gain traction in the Western markets because it was mortally wounded by the media and gamer community before it even launched. Rather than give the device a chance, it was quite literally pronounced dead before launch. The post I was responding to was making a point about developers not developing for the Vita. I was pointing out that while that is true in the west, in Japan, Vita has much more traction, and as a gamer with a Vita in the West, it's pretty awesome to have access to as many good games from Japan as we have. Some games are even making the jump from Vita to PS4 - Sword Art games, for example.

But, if you are so sensitive to price, I should ask why game at all? All gaming platforms cost $$, some more than others. Games cost $60 brand new on major platforms - which would net you almost 2 Vita 16GB cards. So you are basically dismissing the product because it's primary means of storage costs half of a game. Really?

You seem awfully over sensitive to the cost of one storage card that you will likely never replace.

Either way, it's a real shame gamers in the West behave like sheeple, the consequence is that they miss out on the awesome games on the Vita while they play their free Angry Birds clone.

[Kosmos992k]

First post ever here! I'm a PS4 player, as are most of my friends who play the game. The issue of large FATEs and hunts not appearing happens ALL the time in my experience. Even with a hunt with 50-100 people (not entire servers), I've haven't been able to see the majority of people or the bosses (especially when they're in tight places).

Indeed, PS4 plays the game almost identically to a mid range PC. The problem you're describing there is not the PS4's memory, GPU or GPU, it's network bandwidth, latency and client/server communication overheads..

[Gokuhan]

I cannot wait until PS3 support is dropped and the game doesn't become the utopia the OP and others like him thing it will be all of a sudden. Then we'll see "The PS4 is holding the game back!" posts every week instead.