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  1. #811
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanathya View Post
    It doesn't matter how long it might take you to gear. Using a lv50 weapon in a lv60 dungeon is unacceptable no matter what.

    Am I asking here for anybody to overgear anything? I don't think so.
    Did they meet the minimum Ilvl required? Then they are allowed to que in the duty finder. You agree to the rules when you sign up and 5he rule is your jumping into a dungeon with unknown players with unknown gear and play styles who may or may not have the same opinions as you on gameplay.

    Should they use a lvl 50 weapon? No. Do the developers allow them? Yes.

    Hold the real responsible party accountable.
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  2. #812
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    Archaell's Avatar
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    Arch Idealist
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    Alpha
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    Blacksmith Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    Did they meet the minimum Ilvl required? Then they are allowed to que in the duty finder. You agree to the rules when you sign up and 5he rule is your jumping into a dungeon with unknown players with unknown gear and play styles who may or may not have the same opinions as you on gameplay.

    Should they use a lvl 50 weapon? No. Do the developers allow them? Yes.

    Hold the real responsible party accountable.
    I have to wonder... doesn't the game allow you to meet the ilevel requirements while wearing the disciple of hand gear?
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  3. #813
    Player Kaurie's Avatar
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    Kaurie Lorhart
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    Leviathan
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    Summoner Lv 80
    I'm what they call a Aero-Stone only White Mage. I've slotted 210 INT accessories on, and didn't bother to upgrade my left side past 130, due to MND being totally useless. When in dungeons, I don't like to heal, so I just spam my stone I (best on MP) and Aero skill.
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  4. #814
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    Tanathya's Avatar
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    Character
    Selena Schwarz
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    Ragnarok
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
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    Then again, what does that have to do with the fact that the player was using a very poor excuse? I could very well get into a 210 party on my ilv200 WHM using 210 accessories.

    Edit: The real responsible party accountable is the player, and the player alone. We're aiming to the bare minimum yet again. I can't blame my boss for hiring an useless co-worker just because they've got a huge resumé, though I can blame him for not firing them. Now, swap boss for party, co-worker for member, resumé for ilv, and you've got the very same situation extrapolated.
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    Last edited by Tanathya; 02-01-2016 at 02:15 AM.

  5. #815
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    Jay Wadey
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    Zodiark
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    Monk Lv 70
    I just got out of a level 60 roulette in Neverreap with myself (MNK), BRD, DRK, WHM.

    The BRD was pulling around 400-450 dps overall, and frankly their numbers on boss fights were just embarrassing. They were around ilvl 175-180 I would estimate, a few lower ilvl bits but mostly law gear and above. The DRK was doing similar, or even slightly more damage but he's there to tank so fair enough, and WHM was one of the breed who would rather stand there doing nothing, waiting for someone's HP to drop, instead of tossing out a few DPS spells (imo, incredibly lazy, but that's another debate entirely).

    I was carrying that run. It took painfully long, far longer than I, and I'm sure they, would have liked. I'm not expecting them to do as much DPS as me with the gear difference, I'm full i210, but good lord, please at least perform to a reasonable standard, i.e. using your abilities (turn on Wanderer's Minuet for goodness sake), using AOE where appropriate, please do more than just auto attack and press whatever buttons your lazy fingers hover over. Do some form of rotation.

    More than anything else, I think it's just selfish to deliberately perform under your potential. I don't think anybody expects Alex Savage quality play when they queue in Duty Finder, but I think it's more than reasonable to expect your fellow DPS (and tank, and healer) to at least make an effort.

    It disappoints me that it seems a lot of people don't feel the same way.
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    Last edited by Wadey; 02-01-2016 at 02:28 AM.
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  6. #816
    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    Miles Saintborough
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    Balmung
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Archaell View Post
    Not to mention that tanks and healers are more likely to choose premades than enter the Q. The age of endless dps queues begins now.
    Well the forums always told me I should use pre made parties if i hated the duty finder that much, so now I am taking that advice to heart. You can't have it both ways.
    (5)

  7. #817
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    Whiteroom's Avatar
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    T'erra Branford
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    Well the forums always told me I should use pre made parties if i hated the duty finder that much, so now I am taking that advice to heart. You can't have it both ways.
    I will be doing the same. Looking forward to it.
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  8. #818
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    Princess Andrea
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    Leviathan
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    Alchemist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    Well the forums always told me I should use pre made parties if i hated the duty finder that much, so now I am taking that advice to heart. You can't have it both ways.
    Would not surprise me if people called you an elitist for this attitude lol.
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  9. #819
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    ExiaQuanta's Avatar
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    Reimi Namikaze
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 80
    Alright guys, let's all start queing into duty finder with accessories of different main stat. It will allow me to meet the duty finder ilvl requirements AND because im allowed to by the devs. Cause logic and common sense? NAHHHH this game already defies both so might as well.
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  10. #820
    Player Kaurie's Avatar
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    Kaurie Lorhart
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    Leviathan
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    Summoner Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by ExiaQuanta View Post
    Alright guys, let's all start queing into duty finder with accessories of different main stat. It will allow me to meet the duty finder ilvl requirements AND because im allowed to by the devs. Cause logic and common sense? NAHHHH this game already defies both so might as well.
    What do you mean different main stat? Everyone keeps telling me to slot MND cuz it's my main, but INT is the appropriate stat to max the damage of my Earthen Air Mage

    However, on particularly challenging end-game content (such as Dusk Vigil), I'll even take out some INT for VIT. I'm working on my progression at The Aery, but my team keeps letting me down.
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    Last edited by Kaurie; 02-01-2016 at 02:47 AM.

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