Why are low standards for dps acceptable?

[AnaviAnael]

But this is a video game! There aren't real people controlling the other players! You should only consider yourself!




Unless of course one of the other "players" is lower performing, then you must defend them to the death if anyone suggests that they try to learn their role.

I HAVE SEEN THE LIGHT! I must double my effort so others only have to put in half effort! *high fives Whiteroom*

[Odett]

Again, you made it look like that one person didn't do a thing. I'm done either way, like hell I'm taking part in another 100 page thread X(

No they're not. Sometimes that slacker will do something but it's so half-assed that the other members of the group will have to work harder in order to put in for their lack of effort.

[Kaurie]

The best thing about these threads?
They never do anything.

Because the people that post, rightfully complaining about giving others piggyback rides, will never get through to the people that they need to... because those people dont post on boards or even browse online... if they did, they might not be so terrible.
So we are left preaching to the ones that already know they have no desire to do better because how dare anyone imply they aren't good enough/great/gettingTheirSubsWorth/etc.

And now, lets continue with the biweekly waste of time.

but.. this thread has provided me with more hours of entertainment than the actual game has this week

[Fwha]

Do people consider this elitism? Because that's stupid. Not knowing how to play your class generally means that your special ed classes didn't teach you how to read and you lack common sense.

[Archaell]

Do people consider this elitism? Because that's stupid. Not knowing how to play your class generally means that your special ed classes didn't teach you how to read and you lack common sense.

I haven't played any other MMORPG where you could do 80% of your job potential and still be considered an elitist. Final Fantasy XIV - The game which makes you gud.

[Valkyrie-Amber]

I rember on tonberry the unofficial jp eng server i used to see the vote dismiss box come up atone every say 5-10 df and never have i seen people waste their breath telling the bad person they are bad. but really thats the best way to teach someone who plays bad if they get kicked enougth maybe they will try to find out why then learn they are bad and need to git gud.

on Masamune I have yet to see anyone get vote dismissed so must be a more elite eng thing to do.

[Fwha]

I haven't played any other MMORPG where you could do 80% of your job potential and still be considered an elitist. Final Fantasy XIV - The game which makes you gud.

I haven't played any other MMO but there's just no reason not to always do your best. I mean, it doesn't take much effort. You don't even need food/pots to clear things unless you're doing early prog or want to clear things faster. Regardless, people should know how to do their openers and rotations and there's just no reason to slack or not use skills.

words

I got told I was bad around when I was first playing and I was playing NIN. I went and learned how to play the class after that and then learned how to play every other class I regularly wanted to play. It takes no effort and you don't even need to be a basement dwelling nerd. I don't see why it's so difficult for people to read and figure things out.

[Tanathya]

I can live with mistakes and an inperfect rotation. But I don't tolerate willfull ignorance. For example: A DRK in Dusk Vigil with an ilvl 47 weapon

I refuse to adapt to this kind of behaviour. Theres no excuse for it. Doing anything more than auto attack alone would get me aggro as MNK. But I didnt pull my punches (pun) to make absolutely clear that the problems this caused were on HIS end, and that he frankly had no business being in that dungeon at the time. Sure, I couldve just left. But this guy needed to get the facts spelled out to him. He's not going to learn otherwise. Eventually he was kicked because he went into foul language defensive mode as soon as he was asked why he just didnt buy a ilvl 115 white weapon.

My point is, some people need tough love. Their feelings are going to get hurt. But they need to lose the training wheels and put on the big boy pants. Theyre not playing alone, theyre hindering other people who DO make an effort.

Why is this so full of truth? <3

[Waliel]

The game does not tell us that we required to go to some mystic web-site to find the optimal rotation for our class. I can tell you right now that this

Opener
Rotation
When Enochian is off cooldown

is not something a new level 60 is going to work through the first time they visit a level 60 instance.

Now I wonder where you got that from, becaue you don't use Thunder in your opener or randomly throw around scathes.

[Khemorex]

i could see your points if you get hindered in alexander savage , the elitism and im sooooo gooood and ur so badddd ego boost ur trying to do here is just hilarious :P

edit : i dont mind if people gives advice , but since most of the people here do in a sarcastic "im so good ur so bad way" , sry its just to funy :P