Why are low standards for dps acceptable?

[Ciri_Wolf]

I've noticed more than one person mention something similar (sorry to put you on the spot, Ciri), specifically people who don't have BLM at 60. I think it's worth pointing out again that Enochian is not an ability like raging strikes or blood for blood that give you nothing but damage boosts. Without Enochian up, you CANNOT perform your level 60 rotation as it allows you to use Fire IV and Blizzard IV. It's not an ability you can simply forget to use. I hope that clears a few things up for some.

That's fine. Was just using it as an example is all. I figured it was similar to Darkside in execution.

[Kaurie]

That's fine. Was just using it as an example is all. I figured it was similar to Darkside in execution.

I don't know anything about Darkside. However, how Enochian works is that you gain the skill at level 56 IIRC. At this time, it gives you a 5% damage boost that is oGCD useable every 60s with a 30s duration

if you use it whenever it is down you'll get a 2.5% DPS increase, Raging Strikes by contrast is a 20% damage increase usable every 3 minutes for 20s or a 2.2% DPS increase

Once you get 58, you obtain Blizzard IV, this is only usable when Enochian is up - and when you use it, it refreshes enochian. The duration refreshed is less each time you use it (i.e. if you put up Enochian and spam Blizz IV's you'll actually get less than 30 seconds out of it, so timing this is important). Blizzard IV does not refresh umbral ice or apply stacks and is only usable when Umbral Ice is up.

Once you get 60, you obtain Fire IV, this is only usable when Enochian is up and is a very powerful, slow cast damage spell. This also does not refresh astral fire, or apply it and requires it to be up for use. So timing can be pretty tricky with AoE's.

It is a tricky spell to use, but both your 58 and 60 spell are not even usable unless you apply it, and even if you decide to opt out of using Fire IV and Blizzard IV because it's too hard to keep up (this would be a mistake, but I digress), your Enochian still applies a higher sustained DPS increase than Raging Strikes. It would be silly to ignore it.

[Ciri_Wolf]

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I wish I enjoyed BLM. That doesn't really sound too difficult to keep up. At least not any more difficult than managing Darkside.

[Kaurie]

I wish I enjoyed BLM. That doesn't really sound too difficult to keep up. At least not any more difficult than managing Darkside.

Hm, I find it hard to keep up personally. After 2 Fire IV's, you need to use Fire I to refresh astral. If you dodged, then Astral drops and then you need to re-apply Fire III which is a long cast - which cuts out a couple more Fire IV's, which is a huge DPS loss. It was enough for me to decide to never play my BLM again after pouring countless hours in to it at 50 and leveling it to 60 / getting the 200 relic for it etc.

[Ciri_Wolf]

Hm, I find it hard to keep up personally. After 2 Fire IV's, you need to use Fire I to refresh astral. If you dodged, then Astral drops and then you need to re-apply Fire III which is a long cast - which cuts out a couple more Fire IV's, which is a huge DPS loss. It was enough for me to decide to never play my BLM again after pouring countless hours in to it at 50 and leveling it to 60 / getting the 200 relic for it etc.

Oh, no, you're probably right. Darkside is easier to keep up, since it's a stance that uses mana. So all you have to do to keep it going is make sure your mana doesn't run out while also keeping aggro on targets. DRK can easily manage mana since it has Syphon Strike and Blood weapon to restore mana. I suppose You don't have to keep track of as many things as BLM there.

[Alahra]

It was enough for me to decide to never play my BLM again after pouring countless hours in to it at 50 and leveling it to 60 / getting the 200 relic for it etc.

It's funny because I'm in the opposite boat. I played BLM seriously for a few months back at 50 (during 2.1, I want to say), and was considering making it my main for awhile, but I got bored with it. But, I got pretty curious about Enochian recently (and also wanted to see if I would like it more than SMN so I could have a caster for glamours that I would actually use) and took BLM to 60 finally, and I'm having more fun with BLM now than I do most other DPS. It's definitely a pain to maintain everything at times, but I've found that the high from actually successfully managing it on a movement-heavy fight is well worth the effort.

I know several career BLMs that abandoned it in favor of SMN though, and I can totally see why they did.

[Granyala]

I wish I enjoyed BLM. That doesn't really sound too difficult to keep up. At least not any more difficult than managing Darkside.

It is A LOT harder to keep going esp on movement intense encounter or bosses that "hop away" and get untargetable.
Timings are very strict and I don't think BLM is balanced around a 100% Enochian uptime.

if you lose Enochian you fall back to the 50s rotation.

[Iagainsti]

It is A LOT harder to keep going esp on movement intense encounter or bosses that "hop away" and get untargetable.
Timings are very strict and I don't think BLM is balanced around a 100% Enochian uptime.

if you lose Enochian you fall back to the 50s rotation.

This is true; I leveled Blk for pvp purposes but have swapped it out for roulettes to help fc members when the tank slot is taken. Getting used to the long Fire/Blizz IV casts in movement heavy fights took awhile to get used to, and actually made me so embarrassed at my performance I had to go back to the House dummy and "git gud" xD

[Granyala]

made me so embarrassed at my performance I had to go back to the House dummy and "git gud" xD

Yeah ... I needed to do a bit of Dummy bashing too.... :X