Why are low standards for dps acceptable?

[Pomelo]

Mattlock, if you had only shown the *slightest* hint of diplomacy, instead of your ridiculous 'Hello, hello...is this a bot' nonsense' that entire convo would probably have turned out far different. Just reading that made me think, 'oh look another arse'. Jeez you never even used the person's name for god's sake.

I personally don't find asking if someone is a bot offensive or rude at all, you are establishing whether its worth your time to type out assistance/tips for the person. If it was a bot, typing out how to improve is an utter waste. Whereas if its established that said bad player was a real person, perhaps they will read and improve from the critique.

[Critical-Limit]

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You are still ignoring the healers input after the OP.

Youre so stuck in your bubble you cant fathom someone being ignorant to the game in general. The person about B4B knew what it did, read the tool tip so that meets your conditions, they prioritized their attention to dodging to make sure they live they tunnel vision, and skip B4B for a long period of time. This player doesn\\'t understand muscle memory(which would bypass tunnel vision), nor how B4B while not noticeable dmg increase for a 10 second period. It's notice-able if dPS keep it up in a Long instance.

You know healers can auto attack, but the damage isn't worth having them up close. It's possible someone sees B4B the same way.

Sometimes people just need a nudge in the right direction. Auto assuming they would get mad anyways, promotes people to think it's ok to criticize in a arrogant way, because it doesn't matter right?

[Lemuria]

Let's get one thing out of the air once and for all. If someone doesn't play the game YOUR way, that's no excuse for being a pain about it. In this instance, you were pretty rude if I must say, and I would've vote kicked you as well! There's a big difference between offering advice and telling someone they're doing it all wrong.

Furthermore, some advice from a level 60 Black mage. Enochian is great, but is limiting in scope. Due to the timer, and the rotations it's not ideal for every occasion. The tier 4 spells don't reset the Astral/Umbral timer, so it needs to be done manually, and to be honest it's only worth doing on boss fights where you're not going to be dodging a lot due to the longer cast times of these spells.

Granted, there are a good number of opportunities for this on Fractal, but this could easily have been a black mage still getting used to the new rotation. Fire IV doesn't come into play until level 60, and regardless of his gear he may be a fresh 60 (it's easy enough to gear up with other classes). In short, chill out guys. Black Mage went 59 levels without worrying about spamming Fire IV, and it dealt damage just fine. Ignoring one little spell isn't going to make his DPS bottom out instantly!

As for why lower standards for DPS are acceptable for trash content, it's because no one is relying on them to stay alive. Tanks and healers carry a bit more weight in that regard, and the only time anyone cares about DPS is on rage timers or raid bosses.

[Andrea]

If someone doesn't play the game YOUR way .

Doesnt that also apply to the blm that didnt want to use enochian because "I don't want to"?

[EnoraTaqa]

Doesnt that also apply to the blm that didnt want to use enochian because "I don't want to"?

No because for the BLM, you guys have it wrong and you don't play the game 'his way'

[Ashkendor]

As for why lower standards for DPS are acceptable for trash content, it's because no one is relying on them to stay alive. Tanks and healers carry a bit more weight in that regard, and the only time anyone cares about DPS is on rage timers or raid bosses.

Untrue. I facepalm every time I get someone doing horribly subpar DPS in a dungeon (and I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one that feels this way) because it means my daily roulettes are going to take that much longer, which is that much more time away from the things I actually want to be doing. I haven't had it be so terrible to the point where it wipes the group lately because between me and the friend I usually queue with (SCH and WAR) we could basically two-man the dungeons. Having two DPS that are at least trying, even if they are in the minimum item level (gear you'd expect from a fresh 60), just makes it faster. Having two DPS that are well geared and well versed in their rotations means we're done in 15-17 minutes. Watching things utterly melt is fun.

Basically, we end up carrying bad DPS and never saying a thing (because you never know if someone's first reaction to bringing up parse numbers is going to be throwing a tantrum and sending a GM report no matter how nicely it's brought up), and bitching about our bad luck in Mumble. The saddest part is that those DPS don't even realize that they're getting outdamaged by the healer.

[Miste]

Furthermore, some advice from a level 60 Black mage. Enochian is great, but is limiting in scope. Due to the timer, and the rotations it's not ideal for every occasion. The tier 4 spells don't reset the Astral/Umbral timer, so it needs to be done manually, and to be honest it's only worth doing on boss fights where you're not going to be dodging a lot due to the longer cast times of these spells.

I am also level 60 BLM and...sorry but I am kinda confused what you are trying to say here...cause Enochian gives a 5% bonus to your damage for the duration...so even if you forget or can't keep enochian on after the initial timer it still buffed your DPS for that duration....pretty sure that is useful and ideal for any occasion. I don't think it is only worth it for boss fights personally...

Like personally what I do in dungeons if tank is mass pulling I will Enochian to buff my AoE rotation damage (even if I don't intend to Bliz 4 at the end, it still buffed my damage for the duration it was on). Most of the times the mobs will get blown up and move to next pull and repeat. (If mobs are dying kinda slow I might end my AoE rotation with Flare as usual then Bliz III > Bliz IV to keep Enochian on)

[randysquirrel]

Enochian is great, but is limiting in scope. Due to the timer, and the rotations it's not ideal for every occasion. The tier 4 spells don't reset the Astral/Umbral timer, so it needs to be done manually, and to be honest it's only worth doing on boss fights where you're not going to be dodging a lot due to the longer cast times of these spells.

Even in your aoe rotation, the damage increase from Enochian alone, paired with the relatively low CD, make it worth using on trash groups, even if you don't refresh. The only time it's feasibly not worth using, is on a small pack right before a boss fight, if it won't be back up in time.

[Kurogaea]

Well obviously you care too much for a speck of dps that won't compromise your run.

[AlphaFox]

Eh thing is about vote kicking is that most times if 2 people join, of the 3 votes total they are most likely to side with each other when it comes to kicking someone. Or they may just not care a click yes without reading