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    Reilyn's Avatar
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    Vael Keriun
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    Leviathan
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by The_Greatest_Evil View Post
    Not talking about Dragoon. But other class like Ninja for example. It's normally to see them using just combos and not mudras.
    There was more than one class quest that literally teaches you how to use mudras.

    As a matter of fact, there's at least 3.
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    Nico Nico
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    Alchemist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by mattlock View Post
    ...Why did everyone turn against me when I was in the right?...
    IMO anything that will only make this content much more slower should be prevented, bcoz you are an expert and he is not.
    I think the BLM should just reply "bcoz I have not unlocked Fire4" , then what can you do? ^^;
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    Frederick Blake
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    Sargatanas
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Nicobo View Post
    IMO anything that will only make this content much more slower should be prevented, bcoz you are an expert and he is not.
    I think the BLM should just reply "bcoz I have not unlocked Fire4" , then what can you do? ^^;
    why a BLM would not unlock fire4?
    what you are saing doesnt make sence, that kind of excuse doesnt exist.
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    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    Miles Saintborough
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    I get FF14 is very mainstream etc, but it's still very expansive as an MMO. People should at least take a few minutes of their time to do a bit of research, whether it's about their rotations or where the next job quests are. This isn't a generic FPS where you can just jump in and cap fools in 30 minutes of blind learning. MMOs push for some form of dedication. Not every single thing in a game should have your hand held.
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    Sylvana Tenebri
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frederick22 View Post
    why a BLM would not unlock fire4?
    what you are saing doesnt make sence, that kind of excuse doesnt exist.
    While I won't take a side in this overall debate, it's not necessarily impossible. If their friend is being particularly insistent about it, they can feel obligated to queue with them even without their full moveset. When I was in the middle of doing my Warrior, machinist, and ninja level 60's, I was more or less kidnapped to go and queue up for content despite not having my entire moveset. It's possible for a BLM to not have fire 4 for a similar reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    While I won't take a side in this overall debate, it's not necessarily impossible. If their friend is being particularly insistent about it, they can feel obligated to queue with them even without their full moveset. When I was in the middle of doing my Warrior, machinist, and ninja level 60's, I was more or less kidnapped to go and queue up for content despite not having my entire moveset. It's possible for a BLM to not have fire 4 for a similar reason.
    Those chances are very very low. If I meed someone on a end game dungepn that didnt unlocked all this post 50 skills. I would inmediently think that something is wrong with that player.
    Or he doesnt understand the importance of skills, or he dont even care how to play his Job.
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    Player PArcher's Avatar
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    Kytre Ashaer
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    While I won't take a side in this overall debate, it's not necessarily impossible. If their friend is being particularly insistent about it, they can feel obligated to queue with them even without their full moveset. When I was in the middle of doing my Warrior, machinist, and ninja level 60's, I was more or less kidnapped to go and queue up for content despite not having my entire moveset. It's possible for a BLM to not have fire 4 for a similar reason.
    IMO, there's a few jobs that can get away without having their lv60 ability right away. WAR and NIN are definitely two of them (I haven't finished MCH, but isn't the MCH 60 Ricochet, which, if so, would also fall under the "not as important" category. SCH, DRK, AST and MNK also have "minor" lv60 skills [not saying they're bad, they're mostly cool-downs that ultimately won't affect a new 60 all that much. Except SCH...hands please, who has actually used Dissipation for anything other than wanting to randomly eat your fairy before?]. And forgot BRD...yeah, don't know what they were thinking with that skill)

    BLM is not. Its also probably the worst job to get to 60, since the entire rotation changes pretty dramatically (from what BLM are used to. DRG has it second-worst, but I feel DRG eased into it a lot better than BLM). I do feel bad for new BLM, but at the same time you'd think this absolute confusion over what to do would push most to consult Google...

    A fresh (really really new) 60, of any DPS (tanks and heals, sorry, but your jobs really don't change a ton 50->60), I'm OK with them not being terribly good or really understanding of their 60 rotation. But the way the BLM in the OP was talking...he's been 60 for a bit (or is just a jerk, either way), so he should have done some sort of research, or asked his FC for help.
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    Delmira Garnet
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    Midgardsormr
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    Samurai Lv 70
    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...me_as_jp_pugs/

    This is just how the general player base is for the NA community sadly.

    "entire community easily agrees that the duty finder should be a place where only the experience should queue for, where as in NA, everyone seems to think that duty finder is a place of practice and learning... Doesn't it make sense that finding a good party from a pool of players across several servers is much better than finding players from one server? "

    "In duty finder experts in NA servers, you can easily find an underperforming DPS doing 2.0 amounts of damage, underperforming healers not DPSing, or tanks just 1 2 3'ing their way to the end. Maybe its their culture or the way they respect one another but many JP players simply try to better themselves for the sake of looking better to other players or to not burden other players."
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    Aija Dal
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    Summoner Lv 90
    tough talk for someone who doesnt have blm to 60
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    Mattlock Chan
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    Thaumaturge Lv 78
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCurls View Post
    tough talk for someone who doesnt have blm to 60
    but I do friend, just take a look at my lodestone
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    Last edited by mattlock; 01-25-2016 at 02:42 PM.
    I don't think before I speak, actions are louder than words (in other words, I have no idea what I am talking about)

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