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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabzy View Post
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    Noc AST was meant to substitute SCH. Noc AST is trash and SCH is OP, it's a fact.
    The fact that SCH have a fairy is enough reasoning not to bring Noc AST, but even without fairy SCH would probably be better than Noc AST as an off healer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaSonic View Post
    Noc AST was meant to substitute SCH. Noc AST is trash and SCH is OP, it's a fact.
    The fact that SCH have a fairy is enough reasoning not to bring Noc AST, but even without fairy SCH would probably be better than Noc AST as an off healer.
    Being the best healer out of the 3 doesn't mean OP, there has to be one healer on top and at the moment it's SCH. But like I've said before, the current raid meta focuses a lot on DPS so obviously the healer that specialises in DPS contribution will shine. It wouldn't be fair to allow AST to have the same DPS capabilities while they can buff and heal too. You can't ask for everything, unless you actually want further homogenization of the roles?

    For the record I have played all three healers in savage, including Noct. AST, and we had no problems even with lower level gear. Yeah it's no SCH, but it's far from 'trash'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabzy View Post
    Being the best healer out of the 3 doesn't mean OP, there has to be one healer on top and at the moment it's SCH. But like I've said before, the current raid meta focuses a lot on DPS so obviously the healer that specialises in DPS contribution will shine. It wouldn't be fair to allow AST to have the same DPS capabilities while they can buff and heal too. You can't ask for everything, unless you actually want further homogenization of the roles?

    For the record I have played all three healers in savage, including Noct. AST, and we had no problems even with lower level gear. Yeah it's no SCH, but it's far from 'trash'.
    The problem is that SCH is much more OP than noc AST. The fact that SCH is OP it's the problem. I think you could nerf the fairy down to 75% less healing and SCH would still be better. Except Cards and maybe some gimmick that SCH doesn't have, Noc AST is worse in every aspect compared to SCH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaSonic View Post
    Noc AST was meant to substitute SCH. Noc AST is trash and SCH is OP, it's a fact.
    The fact that SCH have a fairy is enough reasoning not to bring Noc AST, but even without fairy SCH would probably be better than Noc AST as an off healer.
    This statement basically invalidates your entire opinion. Being able to bring the unique duality of offensive dps that is mana neutral and the buffer of its shield is what makes the scholar unable to trully be shifted with the astrologian. Forcing healers to provide strong dps in tight damage dealing requirements was the first mistake of SE and the scholar brings mana neutral damage while hitting pretty hard. Weaken drain or make the spells more costly would go far in fixing scholars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlady View Post
    This statement basically invalidates your entire opinion. Being able to bring the unique duality of offensive dps that is mana neutral and the buffer of its shield is what makes the scholar unable to trully be shifted with the astrologian. Forcing healers to provide strong dps in tight damage dealing requirements was the first mistake of SE and the scholar brings mana neutral damage while hitting pretty hard. Weaken drain or make the spells more costly would go far in fixing scholars.
    Well if we were to increase MP damage costs. Would you bring SCH over a Noc AST? I'd probably do it. They still have the fairy, they still have the instant heals, they still have adlo crit. They would just DPS a bit less.
    You try to invalidate my opinion when you are the one that forget that SCH brings more things than DPS and the one that forget that SMN still exists and nerfing those damage spells would nerf SMN too.
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