The new concept screenshot is a real-time in-game render!

[ellohwell]

Casual and hardcore use addon but that not the point i still don't understand why people can't be a tank or a healer without a pop or sound saying someone else have hate i could understand in wow where there lot's of people around while fighting and it get crazy but in FFXIV i think it would never be needed only if your lazy and can't play a mmo without addon.

I know myself wont be using any addon maybe the one i like from ffxi windower display how much EXP i'm getting. The only reason i hate addons is in wow to do anything like raids they make you download addon A,B,C / D to even do there events i hope that never happen in ffxiv if it does then w/e i play my way and learn how to play the game without using addon i did it in wow and in ffxi i can do it in ffxiv.

Addons are just a crutch for those lacking skill and intuition.

In Call of Duty, if you use an aimbot it's called hacking because it automates the entire skillset the gameplay is based on.

In FFXIV, if players use addons which automate the skill-set of the gameplay, then that too should be deemed "hacking".

There is a difference between a helpful UI and something that plays the game for you, and sometimes I think addons cross that line.

The dev team should be the only people that get to define the skillset of the game. Addons/hacks which automate that skillset should not be allowed.

Customising the layout should be the only thing that is allowed.

[Zenaku]

Addons are just a crutch for those lacking skill and intuition.

In Call of Duty, if you use an aimbot it's called hacking because it automates the entire skillset the gameplay is based on.

In FFXIV, if players use addons which automate the skill-set of the gameplay, then that too should be deemed "hacking".

There is a difference between a helpful UI and something that plays the game for you, and sometimes I think addons cross that line.

The dev team should be the only people that get to define the skillset of the game. Addons/hacks which automate that skillset should not be allowed.

Customising the layout should be the only thing that is allowed.

I agree with you 100% i can care less about addon as long as other players don't make me download something just to do a endgame event i'm fine with the idea having addon. I for one be switching over too a addon Ui that does not look like that in that picture Something like FFXI with a big chat window like i have my ffxiv right now would be fine play 6year i dislike having small chat .

Let's hope SE would ban and not allow addon that does stuff for you opening addon people could easy make addon to bot Mobs and other stuff and may take sometime to even ban that type of addon not if they have a system set up for that type of stuff.

[Jennestia]

I don't mean to be snarky or anything, but.. yet you played with a guild demanded you have them? Why else would they "require" them unless people who would be a big part of your time with that guild believed 'add-ins are required to perform'?

Just the idea of a Free Company having demands like that makes me feel uncomfortable. I mean, not least because of the privacy issues around players being able to run checks on my client.. Even if it is only to look for certain add-ons, it seems pretty rude.

Still, I doubt I'll be using them to any great extent, especially given I prefer my UI be as spartan as possible. Anyone demands I operate them probably isn't someone I want anything to do with anyway.

It's the reason I hate Add-on enabled games -- some become "required" or "can't play the game without" which sucks the fun out of any MMORPG, especially considering how gungho about "freedom" people seem to be.

[Zenaku]

It's the reason I hate Add-on enabled games -- some become "required" or "can't play the game without" which sucks the fun out of any MMORPG, especially considering how gungho about "freedom" people seem to be.

I agree the most i hate would be Ilvl and DPS score if that become a big hit i'm going to hate FFXIV. Ilvl:645 Dragoon do you need it? DPS:1.5K -.- oh i can see it happening hope not tho really hoping.

[Wynn]

Personally, I won't be using them. Anyone that thinks they can demand that I do can suck it.

[Tiraelina]

Don't play with those people? It's that simple. Either that or you don't want to get revealed as being a leech trying to get carried. I'm talking about the kind that drags the entire group down.

I would really like to see where these addons that play for you are. All they do is give you more information up front that you would otherwise be staring at the combat log for instead of playing. It's like complaining the use of Ventrilo should be banned because you don't want to use it and that it gives those who do an advantage in communication.

Haivng control over the efficiency of my UI makes playing the game itself more enjoyable when I don't have to fight with anything else to play unlike the current incarnation.

http://i.imgur.com/uBPRy.jpg

[Shipp]

Don't play with those people? It's that simple. Either that or you don't want to get revealed as being a leech trying to get carried. I'm talking about the kind that drags the entire group down.

I would really like to see where these addons that play for you are. All they do is give you more information up front that you would otherwise be staring at the combat log for instead of playing. It's like complaining the use of Ventrilo should be banned because you don't want to use it and that it gives those who do an advantage in communication.

Haivng control over the efficiency of my UI makes playing the game itself more enjoyable when I don't have to fight with anything else to play unlike the current incarnation.

http://i.imgur.com/uBPRy.jpg

That is an awesome UI. What unit frames are you using? I used to use a few different add-ons to completely customize my UI like that, but I got tired of having to wait a couple days for them to be updated after a new patch, though lately, it's more like a few hours at most so I might give it a shot again.

[Zenaku]

Don't play with those people? It's that simple. Either that or you don't want to get revealed as being a leech trying to get carried. I'm talking about the kind that drags the entire group down.

I would really like to see where these addons that play for you are. All they do is give you more information up front that you would otherwise be staring at the combat log for instead of playing. It's like complaining the use of Ventrilo should be banned because you don't want to use it and that it gives those who do an advantage in communication.

Haivng control over the efficiency of my UI makes playing the game itself more enjoyable when I don't have to fight with anything else to play unlike the current incarnation.

http://i.imgur.com/uBPRy.jpg

ya that type of addon that give you info or make thing easy i don't want to be forced to use something just because they tell me too. It's not even about the addon that does something for you it just the overall idea of making you use them. Don't play with those people? i wish it was that easy when something become mainstream you have to use it or you never get a invite but w/e does not really matter i'm not going to use something because they tell me too lol.

As long as no one make a ilvl addon i'll be fine i don't want to see "650score+ do you have it? /tell Level 50 dungeon. If i don't see that i be 100% with addon i play my way they play there way i don't really care much about addon just that one i be piss about.

[Lavani]

ya that type of addon that give you info or make thing easy i don't want to be forced to use something just because they tell me too. It's not even about the addon that does something for you it just the overall idea of making you use them. Don't play with those people? i wish it was that easy when something become mainstream you have to use it or you never get a invite but w/e does not really matter i'm not going to use something because they tell me too lol.

As long as no one make a ilvl addon i'll be fine i don't want to see "650score+ do you have it? /tell Level 50 dungeon. If i don't see that i be 100% with addon i play my way they play there way i don't really care much about addon just that one i be piss about.

Yeah, i'd rather invite someone and take a quick look at their gear before i give them the boot. I also like to wipe a few times and figure out who's lacking in dps/healing output and then proceed to giving them the boot.

[Zenaku]

Yeah, i'd rather invite someone and take a quick look at their gear before i give them the boot. I also like to wipe a few times and figure out who's lacking in dps/healing output and then proceed to giving them the boot.

In ffxi people with ok gear did there jobs without issue most healers did there job with gimp gear. I for one never had the best gear for my sam and i did over 2.5k WS when i needed too. So sorry it not all about gear as long as you know what you doing and know when to do it gear means noting.

I dislike when someone wont invite a person due to there gear how would they get gear if your endgame linkshell wont invite them? Do everyone have to join a noob endgame linkshell just to get few items then join a real good one?

wiping have noting to do with gear i party with people and wipe you tell them what to do and how to do it and the party goes fine it's when people don't listen is when ppl suck. I can understand in wow but in ffxi or in ffxiv gear matter but not a lot.

Not saying gear means noting it does but sometime skill mean more then gear.