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    Quote Originally Posted by ViolentDjango View Post
    What exactly gives you the right to tell define how other people should play the game when it has absolutely no effect on you?
    Maybe you should read my post again, then. Have a nice day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Payadopa View Post
    I like the screen shot. The only thing I'm slightly concerned about is UI customisation.
    While I think it's great, I hope SE doesn't allow too much freedom (as in, say, WoW), as I have the fear that some might become a standard that must be used (and we all know how elitists can be).

    Extreme example ahead.




    *shudders*
    It's not even an extreme example, it's a stupid example. People are pulling the absolute worst UI setups that they can to try to prove a point. It's not working. Healers (as the person in the picture is) do not need recount. They can check the healing done if they want to, but it's definitely not needed. I close my recount when I'm healing. Those party frames are absolutely atrocious. Get Grid+Clique, Healbot, or Vuhdo and all those raid frames will be in one nice consolidated box with nothing but health bars in it. Dot timer has a fully customizable scaling option, so the "Debuff" and the "Buffs" sitting in the middle and right portion of the screen are outrageously large. Omen threat meter as a healer is just stupid, imo. A healer is not going to pull aggro from a tank. Very few people actually pull threat from the tank in a raid, healers are like last on that list, so again, useless addon for a healing druid to have on their screen. Even if someone else pulled hate, they don't need the addon to warn them before it happens, because if they actually had a -good- UI setup with a proper healing addon that's not all over the screen, they would simply have to watch the green health bars and heal the one that moved in under 1 second.

    There's also a ton of ridiculous crap on their toolbars that they don't even need to put on there, plus they have the UI scaled as large as possible. My bottom toolbar doesn't even reach all the way across the bottom of the screen on my standard monitor, never mind my HD widescreen that the vast majority of XIV's playerbase is probably playing the game on.



    Simple UI with minimal addons. The left boxes are healthbars for all 40 people in the BG. More than any raid would have, yet they're not all over the screen like some people here would have you believe they have to be.
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    I know it is off topic, but god that game looks awful. It's like a crayola factory exploded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynn View Post
    I know it is off topic, but god that game looks awful. It's like a crayola factory exploded.
    All my friends tried to make me play it... it must be fun but... I just can't stand looking at that graphics... it hurts my eyes...

    meh can't say much I played DDO and the graphics on that one was bad also... I just liked the system a lot it kept me and wife playing after FFXI until FFXIV was announced lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Payadopa View Post
    I like the screen shot. The only thing I'm slightly concerned about is UI customisation.
    While I think it's great, I hope SE doesn't allow too much freedom (as in, say, WoW), as I have the fear that some might become a standard that must be used (and we all know how elitists can be).

    Extreme example ahead.




    *shudders*

    Oh, and I also found a nice article that sums up my thoughts



    Source: http://www.google.de/imgres?imgurl=h...:0&tx=80&ty=66
    Something like that is more like just staring at numbers instead of playing the game, you can't even see the game in that pic. But hey, I'm not against it if that's how someone wants their screen to look. But personally I like a UI that is both functional and asthetically presentable
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    I love it, if it's not the UI that people are complaining about (with ridiculous screenshots of the worst UI screens possible), then it's how the game looks like crap. My picture was a horrible example of the game. I was sitting in a flag room with another Shaman and we both had elementals and totems out which are blocking the whole screen. Obviously it's not realistic graphics. The game has been out 7 years, and the WC series has been out far longer. That horse was dead by 2005, we're discussing the UI customization, not the graphics of the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shipp View Post


    Simple UI with minimal addons. The left boxes are healthbars for all 40 people in the BG. More than any raid would have, yet they're not all over the screen like some people here would have you believe they have to be.
    Even that "Simple" UI is hella cluttered...I want to play a game not play with spreadsheets of information.

    I guess when UI addons come out I'll be "That guy" who doesn't have the boss mods. Oh well good for the people who can't learn to play a game. Seriously I got nothing against most UI mods, automating stuff like healing though...I think thats just cheating the game and gives a massive advantage over other players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    Even that "Simple" UI is hella cluttered...I want to play a game not play with spreadsheets of information.

    I guess when UI addons come out I'll be "That guy" who doesn't have the boss mods. Oh well good for the people who can't learn to play a game. Seriously I got nothing against most UI mods, automating stuff like healing though...I think thats just cheating the game and gives a massive advantage over other players.
    How is it cluttered? I could have moved a few addons more, but I queued as I logged on and didn't tweak anything, nor did I close recount in the lower right corner while I was healing. All you see is the complete 40 health bars I need to heal above the chat box and the timers on towers for the BG on the right side of the screen. There isn't a spreadsheet of information at all. You need to know tower timers if you're defending them. You can see all of the screen fine.

    There's no "clutter" about that UI besides recount not being moved all the way to the right besides the right tool bars and the decursive boxes (that I doubt many people even noticed) being moved over to the right as well. There's far more clutter on my XIV screen since I can't resize half of the crap. The only time XIV looks decent is when I hook up my HDTV. That WoW SS was on my regular monitor that isn't WS.
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    I just can't imagine how PS3 users will get to benefit from custom UI at all. What SE should do is make it where you'd have to submit a UI first, and then they can approve it and make it available for download through PSN and PC for others to use. I'm not sure how else this would work out for PS3 users.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuru View Post
    I just can't imagine how PS3 users will get to benefit from custom UI at all. What SE should do is make it where you'd have to submit a UI first, and then they can approve it and make it available for download through PSN and PC for others to use. I'm not sure how else this would work out for PS3 users.
    PS3 users will have the controller UI which will probably be similar to XI or how XIV is now. There's not point in putting the PC UI on the PS3 because very few PS3 users will be using a KB/mouse, which is what the PC UI will be developed around, even from 3rd party addons by players.
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