The new concept screenshot is a real-time in-game render!

[Krausus]

they said addons, they didnt specify how much they could do, and it is spoonfed, and this isn't real life, I don't go home to play video games to mimic real life

seeing an exact hate list is spoonfeeding information, seeing which mobs aggro and which dont is spoonfeeding information, seeing the exact hate effectiveness of an attack is spoonfeeding

it is figuring out how much is too much that the developers need to account for

there is skill in figuring out the effectiveness of strategies and smart use of abilities, hate list and the like take these away from the game

I think it might be a tad to late to complain about hate meters and aggro icons -.-

[Zenaku]

God I hate that old spoonfed bullshit argument, since when was more information being spoonfed, I doubt you tackle real life with those same stupid ideals.

End of the day addons are coming get used to it !

Of course nobody is forcing you to use these addons, stay in the dark, stay ignorant, I doubt anyone will care enough besides to say "you don't have a DPS meter ? "goodbye" "

Finally we will get parser addons that will tell us exactly what stats are doing so we know which ones to bother with and which ones not to, because quite frankly numbers in the 400's means nothing to me.

ignorant? I play wow without addon and tank without issue same with my gf as healer. Sorry but addon are for players who don't know how to play a class wait no "Who does not want to learn how to play there class" I find addon lazy at least the one that tell you how to play. I did not mind the other addon in wow it help out pretty good but there a few in wow that make you think like really? people don't know how to play?

@Krausus not really in wow most raid make you use stuff like healbot and many other stuff and if there addon like gear score -.- then it going to become oh you don't have 450score sorry can't invite you to our "Free company" which i away thought even in ffxi. Oh you can't join our linkshell if you don't have good gear it's like if i had good gear why in hell would i join a endgame i guess it for the few ppl who level up more then 1class.

But still that what happen in wow if you don't do good dps or have good gearscore you can't play with others. I hope if things like that happen SE would ban that type of addon.

[Finuve]

I think it might be a tad to late to complain about hate meters and aggro icons -.-

I do realize that they are already there and thats not going to change, I feel that the game already gives us more information than it should, I just don't want to see it taken too far, there is joy in discovery, and MMOs seem to lack that when they used to be the kings of it

[Krausus]

Im actually going to be surprised if SE releases their API for full addons, my guess is they will allow GUI addons to change the look of things.

[Jinko]

ignorant? I play wow without addon and tank without issue same with my gf as healer. Sorry but addon are for players who don't know how to play a class wait no "Who does not want to learn how to play there class" I find addon lazy at least the one that tell you how to play. I did not mind the other addon in wow it help out pretty good but there a few in wow that make you think like really? people don't know how to play?

Funny tell blizzard this, most of their raid encounters these days are tuned with the dev team using addons like heal bot (no not a real bot), recount and threat meters.

Healing 25 people with no healing addon and no unit frame addon is just stupid (and quite frankly impossible, please show me a video of your GF healing one of the hardmode raid encounters with no addons), these addons where made to make things less cumbersome and awkward the fight still remains just as hard.

Hell look at the FF14 screenshot we are all talking about, those red bars next to the Party list name, I bet you anything that is an updated threat meter.

[Finuve]

Im actually going to be surprised if SE releases their API for full addons, my guess is they will allow GUI addons to change the look of things.

thats also what I'm hoping, I'd take the time to make a nice clean UI to share/use

[Wynn]

The more I look at this screenshot, the more it is looking like just a really good piece of art again. Especially when you see it up close. The UI is not crisp at all like you would expect a UI to be. It just blends into the rest of the scene. In a real screenshot the UI jumps out at you, an obvious overlay. I dunno...

In any case, whether this is a real SS or not, if the game looks like that in 2.0 it will get a thumbs up from me.

[Zenaku]

Funny tell blizzard this, most of their raid encounters these days are tuned with the dev team using addons like heal bot (no not a real bot), recount and threat meters.

Healing 25 people with no healing addon and no unit frame addon is just stupid, these addons where made to make things less cumbersome and awkward the fight still remains just as hard.

Hell look at the FF14 screenshot we are all talking about those red bars next to the Party list name, I bet you anything that is an updated threat meter.

Hate meter i can care less but i play wow and my gf never use healbot to heal and did without fail. So i'm sorry at the end that type of addon that tell you what next Spell to use to do the best DPS is dumb you should know that by now by just playing the game from 1-max

getting off topic here lol i hope a dev can tell us more about the concept screenshot i think there just displaying the ui but who knows.

[Jinko]

Im actually going to be surprised if SE releases their API for full addons, my guess is they will allow GUI addons to change the look of things.

/10 chars...

Yoshi-P:
Yes. We plan on implementing full support for Add-ons. For this reason, we had to completely overhaul the UI script engine.
When it comes to the default UI, for example, we will show the Monster's hate level in a such and such way, but because we'll still be passing the packets of data along to our players, the playerbase may feel free to create Add-ons that further improve such a feature.

I agree its unlikely we will see things like Bossmods but who knows, one click healing very likely, DPS meters are just parsers, we already have those.

[RemVye]

ignorant? I play wow without addon and tank without issue same with my gf as healer. Sorry but addon are for players who don't know how to play a class wait no "Who does not want to learn how to play there class" I find addon lazy at least the one that tell you how to play. I did not mind the other addon in wow it help out pretty good but there a few in wow that make you think like really? people don't know how to play?

Umm what? Let's test your theory. Give someone who has never played WoW before a ton of "useful" addons that people consider needed and let them play a raid. They aren't going to have any idea wtf half of the stuff is for or what the point of it is.

Addons help you increase your potential by providing useful information.