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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    I'd like to know what games you play "these days". Especially considering MMO graphics lag behind single player game graphics more often than not.

    Further, very rarely do multiplat games use full power of new pc hardware and even rarer is that pc only games do so. The only thing making that pic worse than the screens in witcher 2 is the lack of tesselation, and that is coming post-release as well.

    The graphics are incredible if they can retain the quality in that pic. Mind-blowing, nothing less.
    its "meh" to me, cryengine does just as good if not better. I didnt say "play" or even games. I said "Graphics", not to mention this is for a year from now and looks on average with current to graphic games lol.
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    It is really hard to believe that is not a picture lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by nibelunc View Post
    Btw is the second action bar on the screenshot the supporting system he talked about? To control the chocobo in battle?
    that's the choco's action bar, also you see on the right side of the screen that this is some sort of quest by the timer to the side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JackDaniels View Post
    Yodhida said they are going to allow player aps or whatever they are called. Add-ons. Just think how awesome it will be if our UI looked like this.

    /sarcasm
    Yeah, add-on means it'll be customizable, so why are you showing that screenshot? It holds no relevance.
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    We were the first to kill Ifrit.

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    Really? People are complaining about this? The style is exactly the same, it's just using the new engine in the new world. It doesn't look more like WoW or Rift or Aion, that's just a stupid comparison to make. It looks like FFXIV with better graphics (and a more optimized graphics engine). What is there to complain about?
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  6. #66
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shipp View Post
    God, any change always sends the regular crowd into the, "NO, it's becoming WoW!!!!" panic mode. It looks nothing like WoW. It looks nothing like Tera. By the way, Tu'lia was so realistic, along with Lumoria, right? Oh, and how about Promyvions? Those were realistic too! No, actually, they weren't. Big floating islands in the sky is not realistic, yet FFXI had them. Huge crystals sparkling and floating are not realistic, yet both XI and XIV have had them, along with a ton of other FF games. A zone that looked like the artist was tripping on acid while watching the Frieza saga of DBZ was not realistic, yet it was in XI.

    Some of you people need to get over your WoW-phobia. I have never seen another MMO's playerbase freak out as much as FFXI/V's. Realistic and boring terrain hasn't worked out so good with XIV. Now they're changing it to be more like XI's and it's suddenly "like WoW?" Please. A lot of those concept pictures remind me of XI areas, not even one reminds me of WoW. I don't know how any can look at that main new concept picture and get WoW.

    As has been stated, WoW's UI is fully customizable with the use of add-ons. The picture linked earlier in this thread was one of the worst UIs I have ever seen. You can choose how much you want shown on your screen or what you want hidden. You don't even have to have the standard party frames, you can have a healing add-on that shows the party's HP in little boxes smaller than the "Top" button at the bottom of this page.

    Seriously, just stop the WoW-phobia, the game is not turning into WoW.
    It's not a WoW-phobia it's true tho i agree the UI look like wow then again EQ2 had the same thing. it still becoming like wow and this is what scared players. WoW is the king of MMO and that a fact even tho the game is shit and there noting really much to do beside quest,dungeon,raid,PVP it's the king due to the fact it's casual and have addon. Sadly the reason people think it becoming like wow is due to addon and from the screenshot even the art work look like a big upgrade from rift,aion,tera like.


    @:Akira_Tenshi i agree this is the issue i had with WoW while doing dungeon a person loot something that he does not even need he display the DPS and said i guess i won then huh? Like having top DPS give him right to anything even the item. This happen a lot while playing wow they display there DPS saying there the best and anything you say is wrong. So playing wow myself i download the addon and try to keep my DPS at the highest and that became a job just to play a game.

    Also what worst then DPS is gear score wow even made there own version you can't even enter a type of Dungeon without having a set of Gear score. /sh become 450 gear score class:???? do you need it? it became a job to have best DPS and gear within the game. I thought they said Addon would only be to changing the UI look and not really wow addon and ps3 would just have a few type of UI.

    I hope they change there mind about this UI issue or at least make a world that you can't use it -.- if we getting servers for language i want one for no addon allow and seeing how PS3 users can't it's not like the world have no one in it.

    If they can make it so this type of addon are not allow then i be happy even the interview the person ask the same question to yoshi-p.
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  7. #67
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    I hate WoW. That said, I dislike the idea of Addons, I just think they become a necessity and make it more about math then fun and feel. Plus, not everyone can use. I hate cartoony look, so if they go that route, I am outie as well. Finally, I am not a huge fan of content finder because you lose that sense of community imo. For example, in XI you knew who the jerks or shady people were on your server and could avoid them, with this matching system you have no idea of who that person is. I think reputation matters. I think some of these concerns are the concerns of those who are afraid and are making the WoW-comparisons. Up until now this game has been our only respite from such titles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akira_Tenshi View Post
    I'm aware FF XIV is and always will be a very different game to WoW. Someone will make a DPS meter addon though and then it all just gets so competetive. Players should be working together not arguing over who is doing the most damage. Maybe it wont turn out like that. WoW has the worst community of players I have ever seen in an MMO and luckily FF XIV's community is nowhere near as rude or aggressive so hopefully it stays that way.
    You cannot spam attacks non-stop in XIV as you can in WoW. It will never turn into that type of combat. It will be the same as DPM parser logs in XI if anything.

    Also, I've seen some pretty rude XIV players on these forums.
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    (derp, smartphone posted this before I finished typing...)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    It's not a WoW-phobia it's true tho i agree the UI look like wow then again EQ2 had the same thing. it still becoming like wow and this is what scared players. WoW is the king of MMO and that a fact even tho the game is shit and there noting really much to do beside quest,dungeon,raid,PVP it's the king due to the fact it's casual and have addon. Sadly the reason people think it becoming like wow is due to addon and from the screenshot even the art work look like a big upgrade from rift,aion,tera like.
    You play XIV. You're complaining that WoW has nothing to do besides quest, dungeon, raid, and PvP? What exactly is there in XIV at the moment? We have 3 dungeons that are more like "leveling mazes" than actual dungeons along with an Ifrit battle. We have monotonous leves for quests that are not fleshed out, and side-quests that are still lacking. There are no raids, unless you're counting 1 instanced Ifrit battle, and there is no PvP.

    So far, I count more things to do in WoW than XIV. WoW is king due to the fact that it can run on low end computers and is very accessible. I get it, you don't like WoW. You played it on private servers (as you stated on Eorzeapedia before) and you think it's a buggy game that looks horrible and is too easy to level up in. You played on a private server years ago. Private servers are nothing like the actual game. If you want to mindlessly bash WoW, go ahead. Just don't try to pretend that XIV has more to offer than WoW.


    @:Akira_Tenshi i agree this is the issue i had with WoW while doing dungeon a person loot something that he does not even need he display the DPS and said i guess i won then huh? Like having top DPS give him right to anything even the item. This happen a lot while playing wow they display there DPS saying there the best and anything you say is wrong. So playing wow myself i download the addon and try to keep my DPS at the highest and that became a job just to play a game.
    You said on Eorzeapedia that you played on private servers during BC. It is not hard to maximize your DPS by using a rotation or a priority list. I find it more fun than sitting around casting a spell once every 5-10 seconds so I don't pull aggro. Also, dungeon loot is need before greed. Cloth wearers cannot need anything above cloth. Leather wearers cannot need on plate and mail. Mail wearers cannot need on plate, etc.

    Also what worst then DPS is gear score wow even made there own version you can't even enter a type of Dungeon without having a set of Gear score. /sh become 450 gear score class:???? do you need it? it became a job to have best DPS and gear within the game. I thought they said Addon would only be to changing the UI look and not really wow addon and ps3 would just have a few type of UI.
    Ilvl preventing a fresh 85 from getting into heroics when they're under-geared is one of the best things to happen to WoW. You have no business queueing for a dungeon where you will be carried and aren't contributing.

    I hope they change there mind about this UI issue or at least make a world that you can't use it -.- if we getting servers for language i want one for no addon allow and seeing how PS3 users can't it's not like the world have no one in it.

    If they can make it so this type of addon are not allow then i be happy even the interview the person ask the same question to yoshi-p.
    Again, there's no way combat will ever end up like WoW, whether there is a DPS meter or not. There was a parser for XI, did combat turn into WoW? No. Why? Because WoW's tanks get and hold aggro easily. XI/V tanks do not. If you're nuking a mob back to back, you're going to get maybe 3 casts before a mob is on you.

    These fears are completely unfounded and if people would stop to think about WHY these addons affect WoW the way they do instead of going Chicken Little and parroting what other fear-mongers state, it would be very easy to dispel these misconceptions and see that there is no way a DPS meter could ever turn XIV into a WoW clone.
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