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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    It's not a WoW-phobia it's true tho i agree the UI look like wow then again EQ2 had the same thing. it still becoming like wow and this is what scared players. WoW is the king of MMO and that a fact even tho the game is shit and there noting really much to do beside quest,dungeon,raid,PVP it's the king due to the fact it's casual and have addon. Sadly the reason people think it becoming like wow is due to addon and from the screenshot even the art work look like a big upgrade from rift,aion,tera like.
    You play XIV. You're complaining that WoW has nothing to do besides quest, dungeon, raid, and PvP? What exactly is there in XIV at the moment? We have 3 dungeons that are more like "leveling mazes" than actual dungeons along with an Ifrit battle. We have monotonous leves for quests that are not fleshed out, and side-quests that are still lacking. There are no raids, unless you're counting 1 instanced Ifrit battle, and there is no PvP.

    So far, I count more things to do in WoW than XIV. WoW is king due to the fact that it can run on low end computers and is very accessible. I get it, you don't like WoW. You played it on private servers (as you stated on Eorzeapedia before) and you think it's a buggy game that looks horrible and is too easy to level up in. You played on a private server years ago. Private servers are nothing like the actual game. If you want to mindlessly bash WoW, go ahead. Just don't try to pretend that XIV has more to offer than WoW.


    @:Akira_Tenshi i agree this is the issue i had with WoW while doing dungeon a person loot something that he does not even need he display the DPS and said i guess i won then huh? Like having top DPS give him right to anything even the item. This happen a lot while playing wow they display there DPS saying there the best and anything you say is wrong. So playing wow myself i download the addon and try to keep my DPS at the highest and that became a job just to play a game.
    You said on Eorzeapedia that you played on private servers during BC. It is not hard to maximize your DPS by using a rotation or a priority list. I find it more fun than sitting around casting a spell once every 5-10 seconds so I don't pull aggro. Also, dungeon loot is need before greed. Cloth wearers cannot need anything above cloth. Leather wearers cannot need on plate and mail. Mail wearers cannot need on plate, etc.

    Also what worst then DPS is gear score wow even made there own version you can't even enter a type of Dungeon without having a set of Gear score. /sh become 450 gear score class:???? do you need it? it became a job to have best DPS and gear within the game. I thought they said Addon would only be to changing the UI look and not really wow addon and ps3 would just have a few type of UI.
    Ilvl preventing a fresh 85 from getting into heroics when they're under-geared is one of the best things to happen to WoW. You have no business queueing for a dungeon where you will be carried and aren't contributing.

    I hope they change there mind about this UI issue or at least make a world that you can't use it -.- if we getting servers for language i want one for no addon allow and seeing how PS3 users can't it's not like the world have no one in it.

    If they can make it so this type of addon are not allow then i be happy even the interview the person ask the same question to yoshi-p.
    Again, there's no way combat will ever end up like WoW, whether there is a DPS meter or not. There was a parser for XI, did combat turn into WoW? No. Why? Because WoW's tanks get and hold aggro easily. XI/V tanks do not. If you're nuking a mob back to back, you're going to get maybe 3 casts before a mob is on you.

    These fears are completely unfounded and if people would stop to think about WHY these addons affect WoW the way they do instead of going Chicken Little and parroting what other fear-mongers state, it would be very easy to dispel these misconceptions and see that there is no way a DPS meter could ever turn XIV into a WoW clone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shipp View Post
    You play XIV. You're complaining that WoW has nothing to do besides quest, dungeon, raid, and PvP? What exactly is there in XIV at the moment? We have 3 dungeons that are more like "leveling mazes" than actual dungeons along with an Ifrit battle. We have monotonous leves for quests that are not fleshed out, and side-quests that are still lacking. There are no raids, unless you're counting 1 instanced Ifrit battle, and there is no PvP.

    So far, I count more things to do in WoW than XIV. WoW is king due to the fact that it can run on low end computers and is very accessible. I get it, you don't like WoW. You played it on private servers (as you stated on Eorzeapedia before) and you think it's a buggy game that looks horrible and is too easy to level up in. You played on a private server years ago. Private servers are nothing like the actual game. If you want to mindlessly bash WoW, go ahead. Just don't try to pretend that XIV has more to offer than WoW.


    You said on Eorzeapedia that you played on private servers during BC. It is not hard to maximize your DPS by using a rotation or a priority list. I find it more fun than sitting around casting a spell once every 5-10 seconds so I don't pull aggro. Also, dungeon loot is need before greed. Cloth wearers cannot need anything above cloth. Leather wearers cannot need on plate and mail. Mail wearers cannot need on plate, etc.


    Ilvl preventing a fresh 85 from getting into heroics when they're under-geared is one of the best things to happen to WoW. You have no business queueing for a dungeon where you will be carried and aren't contributing.


    Again, there's no way combat will ever end up like WoW, whether there is a DPS meter or not. There was a parser for XI, did combat turn into WoW? No. Why? Because WoW's tanks get and hold aggro easily. XI/V tanks do not. If you're nuking a mob back to back, you're going to get maybe 3 casts before a mob is on you.

    These fears are completely unfounded and if people would stop to think about WHY these addons affect WoW the way they do instead of going Chicken Little and parroting what other fear-mongers state, it would be very easy to dispel these misconceptions and see that there is no way a DPS meter could ever turn XIV into a WoW clone.
    Actually i play wow just a few month ago level up a warrior and a death knight and many other class, and just like the private world the bugs i found where the same thing lol. in private servers there no such thing as dungeon finder that work and there really one 1 servers so i was talking about real wow if you count the time i really payed for real wow i would say it be a total amount of 5months and each time i play it was due to the fact that i could not play FFXIV due to my pc being mess up and had to order new parts to even play FFXIV so i ended up playing WoW with a few friends and my gf while we both wait for the parts to come and each time a new part broke.

    What i said in Eorzeapedia was 2009/2010 which don't count that when i never like wow and never want to test it out and i ended up playing in a private servers and even in real life everyone who play wow long enough know there loads of bugs and each players i talk too told me that blizzard for you only caring about money.

    Anyways there no need to become a wow-clone there just going to lose fans and players due to the fact that blizzard new mmo would take over wow. The only thing that could be a wow killer would be blizzard there player base trust them even if there game sucks and the company is not that great but that part is my opinion on that.

    But i agree you need to take part from other game so players can play the game there way even if that wow. But changing the look of the game is just other part i don't want that the only issue i have i can care less about the UI or if they call stuff dungeon or raid anymore i just care about the look of the game if it too cartoonish i guess i play due to that fact it's the only game that have storyline and it not a game that spam action all day but i still think if that how the game look then it's a downgrade from FFXIV 1.0

    And i still think FFXIV have more to offer then wow from 1.19 sorry but that just how i feel. Sidequest,leves,craft,mission,prime fight,dungeon maybe i should use my words better the quality in ffxiv is better then wow.
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    I'm aware FF XIV is and always will be a very different game to WoW. Someone will make a DPS meter addon though and then it all just gets so competetive. Players should be working together not arguing over who is doing the most damage. Maybe it wont turn out like that. WoW has the worst community of players I have ever seen in an MMO and luckily FF XIV's community is nowhere near as rude or aggressive so hopefully it stays that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akira_Tenshi View Post
    I'm aware FF XIV is and always will be a very different game to WoW. Someone will make a DPS meter addon though and then it all just gets so competetive. Players should be working together not arguing over who is doing the most damage. Maybe it wont turn out like that. WoW has the worst community of players I have ever seen in an MMO and luckily FF XIV's community is nowhere near as rude or aggressive so hopefully it stays that way.
    You cannot spam attacks non-stop in XIV as you can in WoW. It will never turn into that type of combat. It will be the same as DPM parser logs in XI if anything.

    Also, I've seen some pretty rude XIV players on these forums.
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    It is really hard to believe that is not a picture lol
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    Really? People are complaining about this? The style is exactly the same, it's just using the new engine in the new world. It doesn't look more like WoW or Rift or Aion, that's just a stupid comparison to make. It looks like FFXIV with better graphics (and a more optimized graphics engine). What is there to complain about?
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    I hate WoW. That said, I dislike the idea of Addons, I just think they become a necessity and make it more about math then fun and feel. Plus, not everyone can use. I hate cartoony look, so if they go that route, I am outie as well. Finally, I am not a huge fan of content finder because you lose that sense of community imo. For example, in XI you knew who the jerks or shady people were on your server and could avoid them, with this matching system you have no idea of who that person is. I think reputation matters. I think some of these concerns are the concerns of those who are afraid and are making the WoW-comparisons. Up until now this game has been our only respite from such titles.
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    (derp, smartphone posted this before I finished typing...)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcell View Post
    Really? People are complaining about this? The style is exactly the same, it's just using the new engine in the new world. It doesn't look more like WoW or Rift or Aion, that's just a stupid comparison to make. It looks like FFXIV with better graphics (and a more optimized graphics engine). What is there to complain about?
    This. I have no clue what part of everyone's anatomy they're pulling this 'cartoony' idea out of, but y'all sure are good at feeding each other's imaginations. I might as well be watching a FOX News broadcast. The character models look nigh-identical to what they are now. What looks different is the hard lighting, which is likely circumstantial, just like with any other WS, spell, or specialized situation that happens now. If no one's looked up the Luminous engine, maybe you should pay Google and YouTube a visit before you start crying wolf over lack of realism. The new engine's going to put Crystal Tools to shame. Why in the world would they downgrade the graphics, people? Let's be rational here for crying out loud.
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