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    I don't really like that Square is supporting addons with V2. If you play WoW you will know it's all just about who does the most damage, people spamming DPS meters all the time and if you come out on bottom you are sometimes kicked out of a group, even if you are having a good run and nobody has died if you aren't doing amazing dps you are a "noob".You are expected to download addons to join raid groups. I prefer to play a game as the developers intended I do not care for player made addons.


    There is also the fact that PS3 players wont even be able to use addons so I don't think it is fair. I worry that this will separate players.
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    i didnt think it wasnt realtime, its not exactly insanely impressive when comparing it to graphics these days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    i didnt think it wasnt realtime, its not exactly insanely impressive when comparing it to graphics these days.
    I'd like to know what games you play "these days". Especially considering MMO graphics lag behind single player game graphics more often than not.

    Further, very rarely do multiplat games use full power of new pc hardware and even rarer is that pc only games do so. The only thing making that pic worse than the screens in witcher 2 is the lack of tesselation, and that is coming post-release as well.

    The graphics are incredible if they can retain the quality in that pic. Mind-blowing, nothing less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    I'd like to know what games you play "these days". Especially considering MMO graphics lag behind single player game graphics more often than not.

    Further, very rarely do multiplat games use full power of new pc hardware and even rarer is that pc only games do so. The only thing making that pic worse than the screens in witcher 2 is the lack of tesselation, and that is coming post-release as well.

    The graphics are incredible if they can retain the quality in that pic. Mind-blowing, nothing less.
    its "meh" to me, cryengine does just as good if not better. I didnt say "play" or even games. I said "Graphics", not to mention this is for a year from now and looks on average with current to graphic games lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    its "meh" to me, cryengine does just as good if not better. I didnt say "play" or even games. I said "Graphics", not to mention this is for a year from now and looks on average with current to graphic games lol.
    Its on average if we pick specific titles like bf3, crysis 2 or witcher 2. It's not even close if we were seriously talking about 'average'. That's more like modern warfare 3, and that pic is way beyond mw3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    Its on average if we pick specific titles like bf3, crysis 2 or witcher 2. It's not even close if we were seriously talking about 'average'. That's more like modern warfare 3, and that pic is way beyond mw3.
    I dont know about "Way Beyond", (Restricting to current gen) bf3/crysis etc, its about on par with mw3 for all I see, and I'm a graphics whore.

    But my initial point was, it certainly doesnt look non-real time lol, its not exactly CGI and would serve no purpose being pre-rendered. Dont get me wrong, it looks absolute fantastic, compared to MMO's its defiantly in top (when its out it wont be num 1 though, remember that its a year away), it is very good, and the interface is the best part for me.
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    I have one more very important thing to say to this screenshot. The target "selector hand". I love it. I want them to implement it with 1.20.

    This is more Final Fantasy than anything other on the screenshot. Okay this and the chocobo.
    With that said, make it more FF than into any other MMORPG. This is very important for FFXIV.
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    God, any change always sends the regular crowd into the, "NO, it's becoming WoW!!!!" panic mode. It looks nothing like WoW. It looks nothing like Tera. By the way, Tu'lia was so realistic, along with Lumoria, right? Oh, and how about Promyvions? Those were realistic too! No, actually, they weren't. Big floating islands in the sky is not realistic, yet FFXI had them. Huge crystals sparkling and floating are not realistic, yet both XI and XIV have had them, along with a ton of other FF games. A zone that looked like the artist was tripping on acid while watching the Frieza saga of DBZ was not realistic, yet it was in XI.

    Some of you people need to get over your WoW-phobia. I have never seen another MMO's playerbase freak out as much as FFXI/V's. Realistic and boring terrain hasn't worked out so good with XIV. Now they're changing it to be more like XI's and it's suddenly "like WoW?" Please. A lot of those concept pictures remind me of XI areas, not even one reminds me of WoW. I don't know how any can look at that main new concept picture and get WoW.

    As has been stated, WoW's UI is fully customizable with the use of add-ons. The picture linked earlier in this thread was one of the worst UIs I have ever seen. You can choose how much you want shown on your screen or what you want hidden. You don't even have to have the standard party frames, you can have a healing add-on that shows the party's HP in little boxes smaller than the "Top" button at the bottom of this page.

    Seriously, just stop the WoW-phobia, the game is not turning into WoW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shipp View Post
    God, any change always sends the regular crowd into the, "NO, it's becoming WoW!!!!" panic mode. It looks nothing like WoW. It looks nothing like Tera. By the way, Tu'lia was so realistic, along with Lumoria, right? Oh, and how about Promyvions? Those were realistic too! No, actually, they weren't. Big floating islands in the sky is not realistic, yet FFXI had them. Huge crystals sparkling and floating are not realistic, yet both XI and XIV have had them, along with a ton of other FF games. A zone that looked like the artist was tripping on acid while watching the Frieza saga of DBZ was not realistic, yet it was in XI.

    Some of you people need to get over your WoW-phobia. I have never seen another MMO's playerbase freak out as much as FFXI/V's. Realistic and boring terrain hasn't worked out so good with XIV. Now they're changing it to be more like XI's and it's suddenly "like WoW?" Please. A lot of those concept pictures remind me of XI areas, not even one reminds me of WoW. I don't know how any can look at that main new concept picture and get WoW.

    As has been stated, WoW's UI is fully customizable with the use of add-ons. The picture linked earlier in this thread was one of the worst UIs I have ever seen. You can choose how much you want shown on your screen or what you want hidden. You don't even have to have the standard party frames, you can have a healing add-on that shows the party's HP in little boxes smaller than the "Top" button at the bottom of this page.

    Seriously, just stop the WoW-phobia, the game is not turning into WoW.
    It's not a WoW-phobia it's true tho i agree the UI look like wow then again EQ2 had the same thing. it still becoming like wow and this is what scared players. WoW is the king of MMO and that a fact even tho the game is shit and there noting really much to do beside quest,dungeon,raid,PVP it's the king due to the fact it's casual and have addon. Sadly the reason people think it becoming like wow is due to addon and from the screenshot even the art work look like a big upgrade from rift,aion,tera like.


    @:Akira_Tenshi i agree this is the issue i had with WoW while doing dungeon a person loot something that he does not even need he display the DPS and said i guess i won then huh? Like having top DPS give him right to anything even the item. This happen a lot while playing wow they display there DPS saying there the best and anything you say is wrong. So playing wow myself i download the addon and try to keep my DPS at the highest and that became a job just to play a game.

    Also what worst then DPS is gear score wow even made there own version you can't even enter a type of Dungeon without having a set of Gear score. /sh become 450 gear score class:???? do you need it? it became a job to have best DPS and gear within the game. I thought they said Addon would only be to changing the UI look and not really wow addon and ps3 would just have a few type of UI.

    I hope they change there mind about this UI issue or at least make a world that you can't use it -.- if we getting servers for language i want one for no addon allow and seeing how PS3 users can't it's not like the world have no one in it.

    If they can make it so this type of addon are not allow then i be happy even the interview the person ask the same question to yoshi-p.
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