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    Umm. They are using a new graphics engine that is better optimized and future proof. They are NOT changing the art direction of the game. All the same artists are still working on it. Zenaku, your signature suggests you are an Akihiko Yoshida fan. Well he is still the person behind the game's art direction, as he has always been. I think the problem is in your head. At least give them the benefit of the doubt until you have seen more than a single alpha quality screenshot of a battle.

    To quote David Hume:
    "In our reasonings concerning matter of fact, there are all imaginable degrees of assurance, from the highest certainty to the lowest species of moral evidence. A wise man, therefore, proportions his belief to the evidence."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ark_mage2 View Post
    Umm. They are using a new graphics engine that is better optimized and future proof. They are NOT changing the art direction of the game. All the same artists are still working on it. Zenaku, your signature suggests you are an Akihiko Yoshida fan. Well he is still the person behind the game's art direction, as he has always been. I think the problem is in your head. At least give them the benefit of the doubt until you have seen more than a single alpha quality screenshot of a battle.

    To quote David Hume:
    "In our reasonings concerning matter of fact, there are all imaginable degrees of assurance, from the highest certainty to the lowest species of moral evidence. A wise man, therefore, proportions his belief to the evidence."
    Ya that what everyone telling me even my gf. About Akihiko Yoshida i won the card deck without even knowing him then i start liking his type of art i guess i should wait and give it time but you know sometime you dislike something and it grow on you. it's only one screenshot i just hope they take things from other game but don't make it into a wow-clone for the sake of getting that type of player base. Like go the later stuff not dungeon change the names don't call everything the same just for the sake of helping out wow players.
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    Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together Autographed By "Akihiko Yoshida Tarot Card Sweepstakes Winner

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    saying graphic looks like s*** after looking at only 1 screen shot is kind of stupid imo lol
    I say show us actual game play footage with the new server, graphics engine in HD then we'll decide.
    Oh and make sure the footage includes outside day/night, dungeon, city to compare.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinheart View Post
    saying graphic looks like s*** after looking at only 1 screen shot is kind of stupid imo lol
    I say show us actual game play footage with the new server, graphics engine in HD then we'll decide.
    Oh and make sure the footage includes outside day/night, dungeon, city to compare.
    I agree how they did with alpha/beta but that wont happen too like what? E3 2012 or later
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinheart View Post
    saying graphic looks like s*** after looking at only 1 screen shot is kind of stupid imo lol
    I say show us actual game play footage with the new server, graphics engine in HD then we'll decide.
    Oh and make sure the footage includes outside day/night, dungeon, city to compare.
    Off you trot, go ask Yoshida for more screens on the JP forums :P

    I just hope we see some more before E3 next year, and I hope that trailer is more than just the opening and shows actual in game stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    Off you trot, go ask Yoshida for more screens on the JP forums :P

    I just hope we see some more before E3 next year, and I hope that trailer is more than just the opening and shows actual in game stuff.
    If I knew he was here in LA right now I would of looked for him and ask him personally... while asking to get me in SE....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mishakai View Post
    I guess some people just aren't happy unless they are actively complaining about something... What sorry lives they must live.
    No I have to give him, the only bad points are it needs to be cleaner in places (mainly around the names) and I prefer the current buttons just cos they are round more then anything, not sure about the party number.. isn't 8 what we have now? meh...
    But as long as we can re skin the UI i couldn't care less give me a reason to do a Custom UI again..

    But anyway OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG..OMMFGG,...
    Sorry.. ok.. calm now...
    I really approve of the new art direction A much nastier an darker feel ftw..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Esk View Post
    No I have to give him, the only bad points are it needs to be cleaner in places (mainly around the names) and I prefer the current buttons just cos they are round more then anything, not sure about the party number.. isn't 8 what we have now? meh...
    But as long as we can re skin the UI i couldn't care less give me a reason to do a Custom UI again..

    But anyway OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG,...
    Sorry.. calm now...
    I really approve of the new art direction A much nastier an darker feel ftw..
    Essentially the point I was trying to make.. It is a single screenshot, and like you said, alot of the stuff we see there we already have... Full parties consisting of 8 people. And as far as people complaining about the actual location of some of the widgets.. Seriously??!??!! Even in the current UI the widgets are movable, yet they complain like once 2.0 comes out, that is the screen they will get, period, end of sentence...

    I'm all for discussion about the changes, but what I have seen from the people complaining are mostly childish complaints posted by people who obviously didn't bother to think anything through before posting their complaint.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kostya View Post
    For those who don't want a moddable ui and say it'll add clutter and here look at the worst wow UI I've found ever that uses the default hotbars and map and 3 mods that haven't been resized or anything... look at this: http://www.wowuigallery.com/topic/tukui-v10

    Addons don't necessarily mean clutter.

    And maybe I just haven't looked at the screenshot hard enough but I see NO change in art style and it still looks pretty damn realistic. I want to know where this "it looks like a downgrade I don't like the style" is coming from.

    I think that screenshot looks amazing and I'm excited.
    Totally, I've had addon's that hide almost the whole UI or put up tones of info dependent on what's happening or at the flick of a key..
    If they build that in as default as well as letting us mod it... win win imo.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mishakai View Post
    Essentially the point I was trying to make.. It is a single screenshot, and like you said, alot of the stuff we see there we already have... Full parties consisting of 8 people. And as far as people complaining about the actual location of some of the widgets.. Seriously??!??!! Even in the current UI the widgets are movable, yet they complain like once 2.0 comes out, that is the screen they will get, period, end of sentence...

    I'm all for discussion about the changes, but what I have seen from the people complaining are mostly childish complaints posted by people who obviously didn't bother to think anything through before posting their complaint.
    I was trying to give constructive and sarcastic criticism at the same time, but its been a long day an don't think it worked lol..

    But anyway I totally agree i think the whiners and just whining cos they are used to it, or they want a XI-2 or they want WoW or They want god knows what but meh...
    Think there has been a lot of good complaining though, i know I've done a lot when i don't like what's happening but it does seem that rolls have taken root on the Pro and Anti Sides of every single idea now, an rant regardless even when we have constructive pro/con arguments put forward about things.

    I just plan on champaign (aka browbeating YoshiP/Devs) to get the UI moved up to the same level in my mind as those new Graphics, that one is to common looking for the new FFXIV, we need something more Special imo..

    But as I'm ranting I think I shall sleep lol..
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    Last edited by Esk; 10-19-2011 at 06:35 AM.

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    It looks dark.. A bit too dark.. That may change the entire game feeling.
    But I want to see more before I can definitly say that.
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