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    Jacien Visenad
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    One thing always bugged me about Glamour Prisms: Why five Grades for each type?

    So there's seven types of Glamour Prisms, and there are five Grades. That's thirty-five different items.

    But they're not really so different. All Grades of a single type of Prism are crafted at the same level with the same mats. All they really cover is the item-level range of the gear they are glamouring.

    I guess it kinda promotes some kinda market movement? But it's pretty minor compared to the major money-makers like the relic items.

    The time I realized it was kinda silly was when HW launched. This was in the patch notes.



    So instead of adding more grades (thankfully), the level ranges were rearranged. Okay neat, makes sense. But the thing is, as more expansions come you're gonna have to keep on rearranging the Grades having the lower levels cover more. Grade 1 is probably gonna cover 1-80 when 4.0 starts!

    Wouldn't it be best just to simplify it and just have one type of Glamour Prism per craft?
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    Ran out of room in original post.

    I think it'd be nice to have. Would especially lighten up the inventory, since glamouring is the true endgame.
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    They separated it like that originally so you couldn't glamour on gear that was above your level, so you couldn't do things like glamour on Ironworks gear to your level 20 character.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malzian View Post
    They separated it like that originally so you couldn't glamour on gear that was above your level, so you couldn't do things like glamour on Ironworks gear to your level 20 character.
    And you know how easy that would be to resolve it? The system would check if the level of the glamour gear is higher than the level of the original gear and go "Nope, can't do that. The base level of the chosen gear is higher than the gear you want to glamour. Glamour won't work".

    EDIT: Actually it already does this lol. Tested with Level 45 Fingerless Raptorskin Gloves trying to Glamour Artisan's Mitts (Lv50, ilevel 60). They're both under "Grade 2" but because the gear level is higher it won't work.

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    Last edited by Jacien; 01-24-2016 at 12:36 PM.

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    PS3 limitations is probably the reason. It always is
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    Yoshida just loves making things needlessly complex and annoying...
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    Can I rant on this topic? I've ranted on this topic enough I think... They still haven't changed anything though...

    Yes, it's stupid and needlessly convoluted. In a game with such limited inventory space, we not only have to hold onto potential Glamour items, but if we want to switch Glamour conveniently, we need these stupid Prisms on hand... There are 36 varieties of these stupid things!

    It's stupid, and comparable to the original implementation of gear Repairs... Actually, gear repairs were slightly better, I mean we could always use Grade 5 Dark Matter to repair anything, having to switch to the craft was annoying though... Glamour Prisms? Nope. You need a Grade 2 Prism (Goldsmith), can't use a higher tier one for the same job for lord knows what reason... Still, the simply fact that we even need a specific type on top of tier annoys me to no end... Can we at least have an Omni-Prism synthed from combining all the others? I mean, if it's still too much trouble to give us a real Glamour system... I want to change Glamour on a whim, I don't want to have to either bog my inventory down with these stupid things, or run to a Market Board, and I certainly don't have to go through what I'm Glamouring going "I need this, that, and that". It's just an annoying, stupid system. At least if there was an Omni-Prism I could just get a stack of those like I carry a stack of Grade 6 Dark Matter...

    Really though, they need to give us a proper Glamour system, not some lame attempt to give crafters a market... Ugh, I feel a crafting rant coming on... *deep breaths* 3.2 is coming with failed promises for crafters making actual gear *deep breaths*
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    Last edited by Nalien; 01-24-2016 at 12:40 PM.

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    They could merge all prisms into "one" item, save on a bunch of inventory space.
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    Kai Magnus
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    I have a suspicion that this idiodic move on the Glamour system is what is eating up all the memory that could have been used on a fisherman bait box. I'd even be willing to do aong, drug out Quest line that would set me back (anouther) million Gil if that ment getting a bait box.
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    Tonrak Totorak
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    They have a system in pvp gear where you can even glamour it without the right rank. Same is true for l not being able to glamour high level gear vs low lv player.

    I believe the grades are just there to allow more crafters to craft.
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