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    Jim_Berry's Avatar
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    Jim Berry
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    Not sure when this became a thing, but...

    Not every* healer can heal through the bombs in A2N. Please, for the love of all things, DRIVE THE MACHINE.

    There were countless times where DPS was slow AND Bombs were spammed while waves were stacking.

    /end rant
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    Last edited by Jim_Berry; 01-23-2016 at 07:00 AM.
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    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    Miles Saintborough
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim_Berry View Post
    Not ever healer can heal through the bombs in A2N. Please, for the love of all things, DRIVE THE MACHINE.

    There were countless times where DPS was slow AND Bombs were spammed while waves were stacking.

    /end rant
    With people now overgeared, it's the age old classic "outgear the mechanics" problem.
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    Player Kosmos992k's Avatar
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    Kosmos Meishou
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    With people now overgeared, it's the age old classic "outgear the mechanics" problem.
    You mean the classic problem of lazy ass players who can't be bothered to play the machanics and assume everyone overgears content and therefore play the game in 'stupid easy mode'?

    You know, to all those overgeared mechanic skipping, players out there, I'm just going to say it; even if YOU overgear content, everyone else may not and to be honest you can't be a very good player if your way to beat something is to over gear it. If you are as good as you would have others believe, the play the damn mechanics, otherwise people should assume the only way you can beat stuff is by exploiting power creep in gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    I'm just going to say it; even if YOU overgear content, everyone else may not and to be honest you can't be a very good player if your way to beat something is to over gear it.

    /10characters
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    You know, to all those overgeared mechanic skipping, players out there, I'm just going to say it; even if YOU overgear content, everyone else may not and to be honest you can't be a very good player if your way to beat something is to over gear it. If you are as good as you would have others believe, the play the damn mechanics, otherwise people should assume the only way you can beat stuff is by exploiting power creep in gear.
    Agreed! Those overgeared folks then get upset when someone messes up a mechanic because they were only taught how to speed/skip phases.
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    Chiramu's Avatar
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    Cirra Maru
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    With people now overgeared, it's the age old classic "outgear the mechanics" problem.
    You never needed to be outgeared to heal through the bombs. But if you want the healers to help push the fight with the DPS then do the mechanics. If you force the healers to take up the slack for you not doing your job then expect a slow run.
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    Matthias Gendrin
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    Skipped mechanics and aggressive strategies impact healers the most.

    Healers should always be the number one determining factor with any skipped mechanic or aggressive strategy.

    If the healer says "no," you listen.

    If the healer says "jump," you say "how high?"

    If the healer says "for the love of the Twelve, Tank, will you PLEASE equip you Fending gear?" then you equip your Fending gear.
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    Riley Fuller
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jpec07 View Post
    Skipped mechanics and aggressive strategies impact healers the most.

    Healers should always be the number one determining factor with any skipped mechanic or aggressive strategy.

    If the healer says "no," you listen.

    If the healer says "jump," you say "how high?"

    If the healer says "for the love of the Twelve, Tank, will you PLEASE equip you Fending gear?" then you equip your Fending gear.
    Or You could just not deal with the whiny healer and kick them, because more than likely the next healer that joins won't be crap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorander View Post
    Or You could just not deal with the whiny healer and kick them, because more than likely the next healer that joins won't be crap.
    He's right, though. Attempting to skip mechanics absolutely impacts healers the most and healer skill and comfort level with the content should be taken into account, especially for less skilled healers in DF.
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    Last edited by CyrilLucifer; 01-23-2016 at 03:41 PM.

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    Judah Brandt
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorander View Post
    Or You could just not deal with the whiny healer and kick them, because more than likely the next healer that joins won't be crap.
    One out of seven players in a group should not dictate how the group operates. If said player chooses to hold that group hostage with their demands, they are easily replaced. It's the same ideology of a healer refusing to play properly because a tank makes them mad or another player does something they don't want. Stop holding everyone hostage with your crappy behavior and act like an adult.
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