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    To my understanding, it's important to the Dev team to only encourage players to do either 2.x content, or Alex. I think providing reward for Heavensward content outside of Alex goes against their entire design philosophy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    To my understanding, it's important to the Dev team to only encourage players to do either 2.x content, or Alex. I think providing reward for Heavensward content outside of Alex goes against their entire design philosophy.
    That's not really true, considering HW FATEs, leveling dungeons, Vanu Vanu Beast Tribe quests, HW treasure maps, and level 60 dungeons (for Law) all contribute to the Anima questline during one of the three steps. The only HW contents that don't contribute in some way toward a finished Anima is Great Gubal Library (which honestly seems pretty weird to me, but I suppose that means we'll see it used in a later step). The HW Trials don't contribute much, but I imagine we'll see them used in another step, just like Great Gubal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alahra View Post
    That's not really true, considering HW FATEs, leveling dungeons, Vanu Vanu Beast Tribe quests, HW treasure maps, and level 60 dungeons (for Law) all contribute to the Anima questline during one of the three steps. The only HW contents that don't contribute in some way toward a finished Anima is Great Gubal Library (which honestly seems pretty weird to me, but I suppose that means we'll see it used in a later step). The HW Trials don't contribute much, but I imagine we'll see them used in another step, just like Great Gubal.
    Heh it was /sarcasm, thought that part was implied. That said, they've done a lot to have us gobble up and forget about a lot of the great Heavensward content. For example, I've cleared Bismark around 5 times, once for myself and 4 times to help others get by. It was a very fun fight, but I never had incentive to farm it. It's now no longer fun because we were thrown up the ilvl so fast that it's a cakewalk and has lost all of it's fun-value. I feel like a lot of Heavensward content is this way.

    Further, to your counter argument, your methods of obtaining stuff for the Anima relic are all significantly slower than the alternative methods. So if you consider opportunity cost, then you are handicapping yourself by doing those.
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    Why they don't add unidentified tokens for ESO? Would be great for players that don't play more than 2~3 classes, I have basically 2000 useless esoterics. I try to buy some gear for glamour just to be able to cap the weekly 450.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eothas View Post
    Why they don't add unidentified tokens for ESO? Would be great for players that don't play more than 2~3 classes, I have basically 2000 useless esoterics. I try to buy some gear for glamour just to be able to cap the weekly 450.
    This is almost guaranteed to happen in patch 3.2 (currently scheduled for February), since SE will add a new tomestone for us to cap weekly, and allow us to trade in our Law Tomes for Esos at 2:1
    All current items available for Law currently will be available at a cheaper price in Esos,and probably have an end result of being less grindy to accumulate. My primary question is whether they'll convert Poetics into Law tomes or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eothas View Post
    Why they don't add unidentified tokens for ESO? Would be great for players that don't play more than 2~3 classes, I have basically 2000 useless esoterics. I try to buy some gear for glamour just to be able to cap the weekly 450.
    So players can use eso to buy gear instead of spending it for another weapon.

    Quote Originally Posted by CrystalRainbow View Post
    New tomes in next patch which will likely mean poetics are gone.
    Poetics will remain as the lv50 tomes forever. What will be gone is law.

    I wounder where they will put the law gear. Into the new dungeons or into the Centurio hunt shop?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    I wounder where they will put the law gear. Into the new dungeons or into the Centurio hunt shop?
    If we go by 2.0 then the Law gear will be dungeon drops. The Eso gear will be obtained from different dungeon drops (and eventually rewards from the Level 60 job quests) and the gear that will come after will go on the Centurio shop
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    Further, to your counter argument, your methods of obtaining stuff for the Anima relic are all significantly slower than the alternative methods. So if you consider opportunity cost, then you are handicapping yourself by doing those.
    Sure, Alex is the fastest route, but not by much. I only did around 50 Alexander runs, tops. The most efficient way to grind is the one that won't exhaust you so that you can keep going. I did most of mine with Hunts and Roulettes. Alex is also only particularly more efficient if you get a pre-formed party together, as queue times add up for it pretty quickly, as do DF wipes.

    But yes, they did sort of drop the ball with the relevancy of some of the HW content (Bismarck being the most egregious example, but I'd also include Ravana in that). Alexander Normal is really the same way, as they invalidated the gear very quickly for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alahra View Post
    Sure, Alex is the fastest route, but not by much. I only did around 50 Alexander runs, tops. The most efficient way to grind is the one that won't exhaust you so that you can keep going. I did most of mine with Hunts and Roulettes.
    I also did mine via hunts.

    I did about 500 hunts, ish. 50 runs of Alex and roulettes.

    However, doing Hunts is quite a bit faster than farming say Neverreap for law.

    Anyway, again, I was just making a bitter sarcastic comment. Just every day I am slightly more disappointed with this game than the last. Having fun playing WoW and BnS right now, and just logging in for raid night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    However, doing Hunts is quite a bit faster than farming say Neverreap for law.
    I had better luck with Neverreap and Fractal to be honest than I did A3 and A4 as they're fairly wipe-prone on my data center. But I didn't actually do them outside of Roulettes very often because I tried to diversify what I did to avoid burnout.

    I haven't been able to enjoy WoW since Wrath of the Lich King, honestly. Cataclysm ruined the game for me and Mists only made it worse. Throw in the fact that I always preferred FFXI's art style to WoW's even though FFXI was quite dated and I doubt I'll play another MMO until FFXVII (or whatever numbered title gets to be the next MMO).
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    Last edited by Alahra; 01-22-2016 at 02:43 AM.
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