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    Suggestion: Add Poetics to HW Levelling Dungeons

    Just an idea I had. If they did this, you could level your other classes while you grinded poetics for your relic. I mean, the level 50 dungeons give XP now and they give poetics, so why not the 51-59 dungeons? I think this would be a nice quality of life improvement. What are your thoughts?
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    It would be nice, however the reason they won't do this and most likely will never do this is due to the fact there's a large influx of new players that haven't cleared a lot of these dungeons. So the incentive for the veteran players to "help" the newbies is our need for poetics. So if you take that away it will increase the queue time for new players. So for now it won't happen.
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    The 51-59 dungeons are leveling dungeons, the level 50 dungeons were end game dungeons. There is a world of difference.

    The 51-59 dungeons are like the 15-49 dungeons. Exp and gold only.

    Only end game dungeons have tome drops.
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    To my understanding, it's important to the Dev team to only encourage players to do either 2.x content, or Alex. I think providing reward for Heavensward content outside of Alex goes against their entire design philosophy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    To my understanding, it's important to the Dev team to only encourage players to do either 2.x content, or Alex. I think providing reward for Heavensward content outside of Alex goes against their entire design philosophy.
    That's not really true, considering HW FATEs, leveling dungeons, Vanu Vanu Beast Tribe quests, HW treasure maps, and level 60 dungeons (for Law) all contribute to the Anima questline during one of the three steps. The only HW contents that don't contribute in some way toward a finished Anima is Great Gubal Library (which honestly seems pretty weird to me, but I suppose that means we'll see it used in a later step). The HW Trials don't contribute much, but I imagine we'll see them used in another step, just like Great Gubal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alahra View Post
    That's not really true, considering HW FATEs, leveling dungeons, Vanu Vanu Beast Tribe quests, HW treasure maps, and level 60 dungeons (for Law) all contribute to the Anima questline during one of the three steps. The only HW contents that don't contribute in some way toward a finished Anima is Great Gubal Library (which honestly seems pretty weird to me, but I suppose that means we'll see it used in a later step). The HW Trials don't contribute much, but I imagine we'll see them used in another step, just like Great Gubal.
    Heh it was /sarcasm, thought that part was implied. That said, they've done a lot to have us gobble up and forget about a lot of the great Heavensward content. For example, I've cleared Bismark around 5 times, once for myself and 4 times to help others get by. It was a very fun fight, but I never had incentive to farm it. It's now no longer fun because we were thrown up the ilvl so fast that it's a cakewalk and has lost all of it's fun-value. I feel like a lot of Heavensward content is this way.

    Further, to your counter argument, your methods of obtaining stuff for the Anima relic are all significantly slower than the alternative methods. So if you consider opportunity cost, then you are handicapping yourself by doing those.
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    Why they don't add unidentified tokens for ESO? Would be great for players that don't play more than 2~3 classes, I have basically 2000 useless esoterics. I try to buy some gear for glamour just to be able to cap the weekly 450.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    Further, to your counter argument, your methods of obtaining stuff for the Anima relic are all significantly slower than the alternative methods. So if you consider opportunity cost, then you are handicapping yourself by doing those.
    Sure, Alex is the fastest route, but not by much. I only did around 50 Alexander runs, tops. The most efficient way to grind is the one that won't exhaust you so that you can keep going. I did most of mine with Hunts and Roulettes. Alex is also only particularly more efficient if you get a pre-formed party together, as queue times add up for it pretty quickly, as do DF wipes.

    But yes, they did sort of drop the ball with the relevancy of some of the HW content (Bismarck being the most egregious example, but I'd also include Ravana in that). Alexander Normal is really the same way, as they invalidated the gear very quickly for it.
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    Hmm, maybe if the poetic reward wasn't as high? Maybe 50 poetics a run? That way, the level 50 dungeons are still faster, but if you wanna get poetics while leveling up another class, you're still making some progress towards your relic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alahra View Post
    Sure, Alex is the fastest route, but not by much. I only did around 50 Alexander runs, tops. The most efficient way to grind is the one that won't exhaust you so that you can keep going. I did most of mine with Hunts and Roulettes.
    I also did mine via hunts.

    I did about 500 hunts, ish. 50 runs of Alex and roulettes.

    However, doing Hunts is quite a bit faster than farming say Neverreap for law.

    Anyway, again, I was just making a bitter sarcastic comment. Just every day I am slightly more disappointed with this game than the last. Having fun playing WoW and BnS right now, and just logging in for raid night.
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