Please don't gate 3.2 crafted gear behind specialists.

[Mindy_Macready]

The system is by far the least interesting "forced cooperation" system I've ever seen in a game. There's nothing interesting about it at all; the recipes only exist to save face for whomever designed the specialist crafting system, because nobody uses the skills at all.

I don't want to have to worry about "which specialist should I choose" before realizing I've made a huge mistake and can't switch without giving up more than 1 week of my life in red scrips. That was the whole appeal with DoW/DoM leveling in this game, that you could do anything, and if you wanted to switch you could.

[Granyala]

I can't even begin to calculate the playtime it would require to get where some of you ins- *cough* hardcore crafters are... nor would I want to, to be honest.
So what's one red script lockout for an eventual spec change to you if you play the game 40+hrs a week anyway?

[chidarake]

its not just one week lockout its just over one week.. plus you may need to switch back. much easier to level 2 alts assuming you can get the on your server.

im more concerned the mats will be heavily gated in some way than anything. specialist sucks for sure but not being able to get mats in a reasonable amount of time to make something people want sucks more.

[Granyala]

im more concerned the mats will be heavily gated in some way than anything. specialist sucks for sure but not being able to get mats in a reasonable amount of time to make something people want sucks more.

I feel you man.
Got my DoLs to 60 and investigated the script grind.... yeah no. Not playing the "wait for half an hour to get to do sth. for 30 seconds" game.

It's such a shame really. This game has the coolest crafting system in terms of skills and how you raise quality that I have ever encountered in any video game. But they have to ruin it through obscene grind and gating crap beyond the reasonable.

I'd love to craft and get the red script gear. But I am simply not prepared to dedicate 5hrs a day to crafting & gathering mats in hopes to meet my weekly quota.

As for the specialists: they need A LOT more recipes that can be done within the class. There should be a definitive difference between what a spec can craft to what a non spec can craft w/o being forced to buy lame and overpriced components from other spec crafters.

[Katlyna]

The fact that you have to highlight the fact that you've made a big profit only goes to show that the system is still broken and hasn't addressed anything that it set out to do.
If the system was working as intended you would not be making these huge profit margins because crafting would have become more accessible like they had planned and you'd have vastly more competition from "casual crafters"

What Wafflez said in a nutshell. The Specialist system from the very start was a total failure. Likewise specialist recipes only feed the broken system. As Potato points out they only serve to create a greater gap between hardcore and casual players, creating harder micro monopolies on each server. Being one of "few" people to choose something and be capable was NOT the design of the specialist system. As pointed out from the OP, some designer is simply trying to save face at this point, and doing a terrible job of doing so.

[Mindy_Macready]

Hot air

It's a boring system that forces cooperation in a game where you previously could level and play any class you wanted. If you can't understand that argument, then that's your problem.

You're also assuming people complaining about the system aren't currently taking advantage of it, which is understandable considering you can't understand other people's arguments to begin with. Try to understand that people complaining about the system also have the minimal brain cells to understand how to make gil, and that it's not much of a feat.

So what's one red script lockout for an eventual spec change to you if you play the game 40+hrs a week anyway?

It's getting behind by one+ week in the game. That's not very hard to understand. In the crafting game one week is pretty much an eternity for new crafts.

[Lexia]

It's a boring system that forces cooperation in a game where you previously could level and play any class you wanted.

Yea it such a shame that a MMO makes you play with other players. /end sarcasm

[Mindy_Macready]

Yea it such a shame that a MMO makes you play with other players. /end sarcasm

The fallacy of assuming every single thing in an MMO needs to be gated on other players to make it fun.

[Roth_Trailfinder]

The stated intent of the Specialist system was, I believe, to allow those who only had one or two crafting classes leveled up to compete with those who have them all leveled up. It initially failed to do this.

Technically, the inclusion of Specialist Recipes accomplishes this. It does this not by elevating those who have only a few classes done up, but rather, by eliminating most of their competition entirely, in effect reducing the playing field to those who are Specailists in the same class that they are.

The best thing that could happen, really, would be for Specialists to gain access to the other 21 Cross Class skills (15, 37, 50) from the other 7 classes. When 4.0 comes along, and the Specialist levels above 60, then the HW cross class skills should be included as well. Eliminate the Specialist-only restriction on recipes as completely unnecessary. Then the "only" reason to level up other crafting classes is access to their recipes, not their skills.

[Granyala]

It's getting behind by one+ week in the game. That's not very hard to understand. In the crafting game one week is pretty much an eternity for new crafts.

Yup. Which is why I said that they need to make specs worth it beyond awkward mats for other crafters.

Being specced should enable YOU to craft awesome stuff no unspecced dude can.