Is the Double Cross Hotbar anywhere close!?...

[SigmaOZ]

There are already 16 cross-hotbars ingame

8 cross-hotbars shared and 8 cross-hotbars not shared.

If this is still not enough, or writing a macro that switch the cross-hotbars between "shared" and "not shared" mode to be a hassle, there are still the normal hotbars to use stuff like emotes and gearsets with a keyboard on PC and PS4.

You are wrong, sadly, the total number of Cross Hotbar Sets is 8, no more, what the very confusing option of "Enable customization for when weapon is Sheathed/Drawn" does is simply allow you to cycle through the selected Cross Hotbars (defined under Sheathed or Drawn) by pressin RB (Right Button/R1)!...

[Felis]

You are wrong, sadly, the total number of Cross Hotbar Sets is 8, no more, what the very confusing option of "Enable customization for when weapon is Sheathed/Drawn" does is simply allow you to cycle through the selected Cross Hotbars (defined under Sheathed or Drawn) by pressin RB (Right Button/R1)!...

There are 8 crosshotbars shared and 8 not shared, total 16. I don't speak about the weapons.

Put something in crosshotbar 5
Then do "/crosshotbar share 5 on"
Put something else in crosshotbar 5
Now switch between the 2 crosshotbar 5 with "/crosshotbar share 5 off" and "/crosshotbar share 5 on"

[Blindheart]

It is possible to run out if you put the same command on multiple hotbars. Like my combat classes have basic actions on multiple pages because it's just easier to access the commands then having to swap back and forth between bars. Especially as healer, heals need to be quickly accessible for emergency, not having to flip through pages to find the heal while trying to do other actions.

[Kore_Hyperion]

I use two hotbars per job which are set to toggle back and forth during combat, in addition to a 3rd hotbar using the expanded controls for shared actions. I don't have a need for anything more than that except in PVP, in which case I have a 4th hotbar set up that I have to manually switch to.

[Kaiser-Ace]

It is possible to run out if you put the same command on multiple hotbars. Like my combat classes have basic actions on multiple pages because it's just easier to access the commands then having to swap back and forth between bars. Especially as healer, heals need to be quickly accessible for emergency, not having to flip through pages to find the heal while trying to do other actions.

This becomes a non issue when you developed muscular memory for the class skills.

I always know which bar my skills are on.

[Dzian]

I was hoping the beta topics were in the 1.0 archives but it appears there not.

Back in beta though there was a pretty popular topic about the cross hotbar and ways to improve it, with some really nice nad interesting ideas, It was said there that simply adding more and more complex button combos to increase skills wouldn't be ideal. there was one idea I came up with which a lot of people seemed to like and it was something I was hoping I could do myself with the addon support that was promised. it was a redesign of the cross hot bar system that had 3 groups of 4 skills on each side of the hotbar instead of 2 and used the buttons to trigger skills and the d-pad to change groups or sets.

It allowed 24 skill slots per hot bar instead of 16 and much faster cycling of hotbars. I might sketch a quick diagram later and put it up. was hoping to find the thread though as there was a lot of good ideas and stuff there.

[Canadane]

The 2.0 beta topics had their own fourms, iirc.
I even remember drawing up a pretty bad animated diagram for a suggested improvement of the cross hotbar. Those were the days.

[Lone-wolfe-02]

Should be released the same time as smn glamour pets which is never.

[CrimsonThunder]

Swapping between bars can throw someone off and while the expanded cross bar is very good it's only a limited solution to problems such as playing a SMN/SCH/DRG/PvP effectively.

Hell, I'm slightly envious that we barely have the room for pots. So I would personally welcome a re-work of the cross hotbar.

[Dzian]

Forgive my amazing skills in ms paint but here we have the idea I came up with in beta plus a few improvements others did suggest back then can't remember names though. apologies

The basic concept was each side of the hotbar has 12 slots not 8 allowing you to assign 24 skills per set, (a 50% increase)

How it works wouldn't be too different to how the current model works you hold either L2 or R2 and press the corresponding button. the only real difference is that using left and right on the dpad would change the highlighted box.

It was suggested that up and down could also change sets which would mean that you have 20 possible hotbar slots that are at most 2 button presses from your last selected action. and could reduce time spent juggling triggers and sets massively.

part of my original thinking was for things like monk where you could group all your opo, raptor and coerl moves together and simply rotate groups.

I also think it would be a better idea than adding more slots requiring massive button combos to trigger. and as I mentioned earlier I was also hoping this would be possible with the addons feature they were meant to implement.