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  1. #11
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    Reynhart's Avatar
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    Reynhart Kristensen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    I'm all for more varied weapon skins. Saying a class has 'identity' from its weapon is pretty absurd. A warrior would still be a warrior if you gave them a size appropriate polearm or warhammer.
    Without a spear, a Lancer is not a Lancer anymore
    Without a bow, an Archer is not an Archer anymore
    Without a Sword, a Gladiator is not a Gladiator anymore (Since Gladiator litteraly means "Swordsman")

    For the others...yes, the weapons is less iconic.

    Remember, apart from DRK, AST or MCH, you're still gaining class XP.
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  2. #12
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    Baradaeg Ryssbhirwyn
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    I like the idea. But it would work with the armory system here. Weapon = Class; Class + Soulstone = Weapon + Soulstone = Job.
    They can just make new weapon skins but...
    ...as more weapon skins you use for single classes/jobs you will automatically reduce the possible amount of weapon skins for new classes/jobs (no overlapping weapon skins between classes/jobs).
    ...some classes are fixed to a single design of weapon (Archer/Lancer) and if not all can get new skins noone should get new skins.
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    Mimiji Miji
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    Exodus
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    Dancer Lv 100
    I think this is wasting weapons that could be used for future jobs. :B
    Also, with the system you're suggesting, how would you translate some of these ideas? Like Bard turning into a healer when it has no healing skill? Or turning Dragoon into a tank when it has no defensive cooldowns other then Keen Flurry (which boosts Parry) and Marauder's Foresight? And then you have Tanks-turned-DPS that have all these defensive skills and cooldowns. Not to mention changing all the animations.
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  4. #14
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    Jace Ossura
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    Goldsmith Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
    Want to use a lance? You're a LNC/DRG.
    You're not really...understanding what varied skins mean.

    It means a sword is a sword, but it'll look like a mace. Or an axe. Or another suitable one-handed weapon. It doesn't change Paladin to 'Not-paladin'. It's literally a weapon skin. That's it.

    A lancer won't use a musket, but they could use a staff. A Machinist won't be using a bow as it's one of those classes where the animations can't line up with anything but a musket. Same with bard.

    Warrior? You throw a warhammer skin on that baby and it doesn't change a damn thing. (Cough cough titan axe).

    -I'm- not saying give them multiple weapon types. I'm saying you can give more varied weapon -skins-, which accomplishes the same deal (letting a paladin use a mace, for example) without changing the class at -all-. By your logic, we might as well scrap the glamour system because 'Paladins wear plate, not bikinis.'
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  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    By your logic, we might as well scrap the glamour system because 'Paladins wear plate, not bikinis.'
    And in my opinion a tank should wear plate, scale or chain mail, but that is offtopic.^^

    I would prefer a Berserk job for the Warhammer weapon skin, or a Necromancer or Void Witcher job for the scyth weapon skin, a real Knight job or Mercenery job for the mace skin. And please no single handed weapons, it is good they died for the mages.
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  6. #16
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    Aribeth Lightbringer
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    first off this system won't work with armory system
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  7. #17
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    Juan Spellsinger
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    Archer Lv 60
    It will be like adding a new job. Right know we have jobs with no a base class. So example I have a bow equipped am a BRD with skills and as soon as I equip a staff and a WHM with all new skills an traits .So it would be basically the same thing. U equip a flute u still a BRD but u have all new skills and traits like(like switching a new job) u will really just be bard by name Lol there are more than enough weapons to have new jobs. But I would like a healer with a flute lol
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  8. #18
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    Aribeth Lightbringer
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    i rather go with what dev team have going with. they system work we don't need change to make you happy. the arcanist was really problem you had chose to ether be scholar or summoner you couldn't be both. it better add new jobs, your suggest make players have chose as well it make the system more confusing for players. see summoner is full int, the scholar is full mind you can't be both.
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    Last edited by Savagelf; 01-22-2016 at 07:50 PM.

  9. #19
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    Reynhart Kristensen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Savagelf View Post
    see summoner is full int, the scholar is full mind you can't be both.
    Except that, at high level/ilvl, the bonus points in either INT or MND doesn't really make any difference.

    And both SCH and SMN are very powerful jobs.
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  10. #20
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    Victoria Silverdawn
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    Louisoix
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    Conjurer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by liljramos88 View Post
    But I would like a healer with a flute lol
    All i though was Eiko from Final fantasy 9.... Dancer i could see it with an instrument based weapon...
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