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    Do you guys.. really not have anyone who uses Aura Blast offensively on Chaos? It's far from a niche skill. It (and Mythril Tempest) are the best engage tools available to break high-ground nodes, and Aura Blast is way more likely to knock people off the edge thanks to its 15y knockback.

    And no, removing buffs in a 15 yard radius is really not that powerful - the only buffs you can gank that will change the tide of the game are Infuriate and Aetherflow, and to put it mildly: you are really unlikely to hit more than one or two of those even if you hit a dozen enemy targets. No one leaves a game against an Astrologian thinking "man, Retrogradation is really powerful! Their use of it was a major reason why we lost!" - it's way down the list of things that are powerful about Astrologian.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyani View Post
    No one leaves a game against an Astrologian thinking "man, Retrogradation is really powerful! Their use of it was a major reason why we lost!" - it's way down the list of things that are powerful about Astrologian.
    Your skill can't even be used the way you described half the time. It only comes into use IF the node is higher up, and that's a huge "IF." If your skill relies on tomelith RNG to make it powerful, and you somehow think it's more powerful than a skill that you can use ANYWHERE, I don't really know what to tell you.
    No one leaves a game against a Scholar thinking, "man, Aura Blast is really powerful! Their use of it was a major reason why we lost!" - it's way down on the list of things that are powerful about Scholar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheWaywardWind View Post
    Your skill can't even be used the way you described half the time. It only comes into use IF the node is higher up, and that's a huge "IF." If your skill relies on tomelith RNG to make it powerful, and you somehow think it's more powerful than a skill that you can use ANYWHERE, I don't really know what to tell you.
    No one leaves a game against a Scholar thinking, "man, Aura Blast is really powerful! Their use of it was a major reason why we lost!" - it's way down on the list of things that are powerful about Scholar.
    FAM comon now how many times have people you've played against said "man, that Retro knocked off my infuriate right before I fell cleaved or caused all the bullets to fall out of my gun, it must be really powerful! That use and that rng are a major reason we lost!"

    I feel like that's way down on the list of things that have been said about Astro
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    Quote Originally Posted by MANGOSENTINEL View Post
    FAM comon now how many times have people you've played against said "man, that Retro knocked off my infuriate right before I fell cleaved or caused all the bullets to fall out of my gun, it must be really powerful! That use and that rng are a major reason we lost!"

    I feel like that's way down on the list of things that have been said about Astro
    FAM comon now how many times have people you've played against said "man, that Aura Blast knocked me off way down, it must be really powerful! That use and that reg are a major reason we lost!"

    I feel like that's way down on the list that have been said about scholar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheWaywardWind View Post
    FAM comon now how many times have people you've played against said "man, that Aura Blast knocked me off way down, it must be really powerful! That use and that reg are a major reason we lost!"

    I feel like that's way down on the list that have been said about scholar.
    You've really never been Aura Blasted off a high node, huh? You poor, sheltered thing. Aura Blast and Mythril Tempest are super obvious when you're on the recieving end of them, and they're both game-winning effects.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyani View Post
    You've really never been Aura Blasted off a high node, huh? You poor, sheltered thing. Aura Blast and Mythril Tempest are super obvious when you're on the recieving end of them, and they're both game-winning effects.
    Feels a little superfluous when the half a dozen warriors already pelted everyone of the cliff though. I'll be honest, I don't think it's that great because the war and pld both get knockbacks and will presumably be the first ones barreling into the enemy team to push them off the node, and both their knockbacks have additional effects, and both of them have a pvp skill to stop them from being pushed off too. I'd take retrogradation over sch's skill, really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyani View Post
    You've really never been Aura Blasted off a high node, huh? You poor, sheltered thing. Aura Blast and Mythril Tempest are super obvious when you're on the recieving end of them, and they're both game-winning effects.
    You've never really utilized Retro to it's full potential, huh? You poor, incapable thing. Retrogradation is super obvious when you're on the receiving ending of it, and they're both game-winning effects.


    Just because you can't properly time it doesn't mean others still can't, sweetheart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheWaywardWind View Post
    You've never really utilized Retro to it's full potential, huh? You poor, incapable thing. Retrogradation is super obvious when you're on the receiving ending of it, and they're both game-winning effects.


    Just because you can't properly time it doesn't mean others still can't, sweetheart.
    You'd look like you had a point if you replied to anything I said with anything other than a whiny mad-lib, you know. Retro is not obvious unless your important buff is the one it chooses, and no one - not even Scholar - regularly sheds all other buffs to the point where you can pinpoint it in a sea of enemies.

    Retrogradation's effect is the definition of marginal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheWaywardWind View Post
    You've never really utilized Retro to it's full potential, huh? You poor, incapable thing. Retrogradation is super obvious when you're on the receiving ending of it, and they're both game-winning effects.


    Just because you can't properly time it doesn't mean others still can't, sweetheart.
    You don't fully realize how marginal Retro is, huh? You poor, incompetent thing. Retrogradation usefulness is so minimal. No one complains about it. It's essentially wither with a mini heal/nuke.

    It's not the fucking end-all-be-all skill that is AST's trump card.

    Get over yourself.

    You walk into a group of people and hope it removes something useful. Chances are it'll remove protect, or featherfoot, or something equally as useless.
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