Another perfectly reasonable AST idea

[DarkmoonVael]

I agree with the points that moon/Lyrica/kabzy have made about SCH. Playing to the best of your ability, taking every opportunity to heal the most effectively while keeping your dps contribution as high as you can, can lead to massive mana issues, especially using succor back to back with emergency tactics (I usually let the other healer pick up that other half of the mana splurge or Indom.)

One thing for AST i would like to see is the ability to switch sects mid fight. The only balance issue would be the insane regens on top of instant cast shield. A fix would be to have your own aspected spells override your previous ones.

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Another thing that could be done specifically to nocturnal is to increase the duration of all buffs by another multiplier, only while casting abilities like time dilation or celestial opposition. (Therefore cards and Wheel of Fortune act the same with the above skills)

Ex diurnal sect: cast bole for 30 seconds then celestial opposition it to 35
In nocturnal sect:cast bole for 30 seconds then celestial opposition it to 40.

This would shift the pressure of asts needing to be a dps clone of sch to a more true "support" in their nocturnal stance, thus increasing dps or damaging mitigation.

Just a thought. Everyone understands that time dilation and celestial opposition have poor synergy with nocts aspected spells.

These kind of suggestions are the type of ones i tend to agree more with when it comes to Noct.AST. It should have a few more modal effects being in Nocturnal Sect that really emphasises the support aspect of N.AST. What it really needs to do is emphasise AST uniquness, make it all pretty .

[Kabzy]

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So a SCH who keeps up Sacred Soil all the time is telling me I need to use Energy Drain more. Yeah... I suggest you learn that AF stack management IS a thing.

I just hope no one is reading your post and actually thinking it's a good mitigation strat. As Lyrica said, Sacred Soil's only use is heavy raid wide damage in which it can prevent KO's. Using it outside of that scenario is a complete waste of an AF stack (you can use it on Energy Drains ).

Also you only mention Adlo and Succor, both which do need to be used somewhat frequently, and not any of the DPS abilities. Even when using all your stacks on Energy Drain, the cost of healing, keeping up DoTs and using Broil as a filler far outwieghs the regen from Energy Drain and AF. I agree that SCHs have the most friendliest MP regen, but we also seem to use our MP the most too. MP management is a skill that ALL healers need to learn, none of us have a free pass unless you're one of those terrible healers who stands idle when everyone's topped up.

You do realize that aetherflow stacks aren't THAT precious, right? You even have two ways to gaining them now. Shadow Flare does take priority, of course, but prevention is better than curing at all times.

That's cute, maybe you should just stick to WAR.

Also you contradicted yourself big time here. If Shadow Flare, a move you should keep up all the time takes priority, why are you using Sacred Soil whenever it becomes available? ;D You're not only losing out on DPS and a slow debuff but you also waste an AF stack on something completely useless.

[TatoRazzino]

These kind of suggestions are the type of ones i tend to agree more with when it comes to Noct.AST. It should have a few more modal effects being in Nocturnal Sect that really emphasises the support aspect of N.AST. What it really needs to do is emphasise AST uniquness, make it all pretty .

As I mentioned before, one thing that I would like to see is the Sect change thing. It doesn't make any sense to me not being able to switch stances.
Noct's buff could be the same as Diurnal's (just like ROG/NIN's venoms), or it could be changed to something useful like extra natural MP refresh, to make stance dancing a nice thing.

[Yhisa]

Hmmm... Tbh i would trade nocturnal sect to be a dps stance with enhance properties for being in that stance for dps.... And turn Diurnal into a WHM and SCH stance like do somethink crazy with it like

Aspect benefic
Heals the target, regen effect 18sec regen stacking shield

So i will use simple math what i trying to say ... For example ur regen is ticking over time and last 18seconds with each tick it also place a shield on the target say for 50%- 70% of the regen tick?

Regen 1200 tick 18sec
Shield 620 per tick stacks 3times = 1860 shield if not been hit

This is just as idea just to show how it would work would need adjusting to not make it too strong but i would like it like thia tbh but this is my own person veiwpoint

[Yhisa]

(Cannot edit due to being on tablet)

Also with the regen/shield combo HoT this would be allowed to stack with galvanize and with other ASTs

WHM = burst healing/ burst dps / emergancy heals
SCH = mitigation/ consitant dps / fairy support
AST = support / damage support / heal & reduce damage over time

[Vlady]

Reduce damage over time would have to be kept up like debuffs to slash or pierce resistance like the dps abilities provide or it seems like the range for maximizing the reduction would be wasted. But supervirus and disable already accomplishes that role so probably not going to be something SE would use.

[Yhisa]

Reduce damage over time would have to be kept up like debuffs to slash or pierce resistance like the dps abilities provide or it seems like the range for maximizing the reduction would be wasted. But supervirus and disable already accomplishes that role so probably not going to be something SE would use.

U read my post wrong the reduce damage over time is from the new idea i came up with aspect benefic etc

We basically supplying hots which each hot tick gives a shield which prevents damage taken which reduce the need to to heal more it will help both WHM and SCH and even play with AST/AST this is my idea to allow us to be paired with any healer

[Vlady]

Did not realize interpreting words was meant to be taken in an introspective view point. Nocturnal stance would most likely gain a better ground to compete with scholar when it provides the dps the scholar brings along with its shielding. I am all for nocturnal being a slightly weaker version of cleric stance with mana reduction costs to dps spells and no potency penalty to heals along with a bump in damage. Being able to provide damage and healing without stance dancing might help us as well in the nocturnal side of things. But as I said in order to get any more toys we will have to lose our ability to be stronger healers then white mages.

[Yhisa]

snips.

What?... Ur totally disregarding that SCH and WHM have a lot more OH SHIT buttons then AST... Once we use essential dignity... Its game over man, game over

Celestrial oppotition
for a stun + 5sec buff time.,..... Yay (holy is better wtf)

Lightspeed
never use it apart from aoe healing and if u are using this on single target healing please quit ast because this skill does not remove GCD of skills also spell speed allow u to get 1 additional cast of (tested it)

Essential dignity
give tanks heart attack and waste cooldowns due to they need to be below 25% to get 750 potency heal

Synastry
Gains healing bonus yay....can heal 2 targets yay... What u do not do is use time dialation on this skill.... Use celestrial if u want it to last 5 sec longer

Collective concious
I hate and love this.. 4k hot combo awsome... Frozen in place...ughhh

Time dialation
Extend buffs /hots ... Yay ... For diurnal only.. WHAT??

[Yhisa]

Even if SE buffed our healing more then WHM... It still would not make AST better.. Because WHM and SCH got reliable Cooldowns and utility

Where AST playing with RNG jesus , got 2 ok cooldowns (synastry, essential) the rest is situational at best

Oh i forgot disable... But ughh only last 6sec and u have to have perfect timing to reduce the damage taken unlike virus which last longer....

Whilst SCH and WHM got cooldowns for nearly any encounter SE throws at them ... I want a WHM/SCH/AST cooldown comparison with a chart posted on here... And u will see WHM and SCH will wreck AST

Please can someone make this chart and post it on here... Thank u in advance