Results 1 to 10 of 26

Hybrid View

  1. #1
    Player
    Wobi's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    Uldah
    Posts
    621
    Character
    Aria Erabith
    World
    Malboro
    Main Class
    Miner Lv 100
    Certain phases in raid battles are difficult and have a lot of damage going out, which tax the healers and allow for additional things to go wrong. If you have the ability to push a percentage based mechanic out and skip it entirely why would you not try? There will never be a perfect balance in jobs and this game is far more balanced than most MMOs I've played. In the next phase PLDs might be a must have and people will not want a dark knight or warrior, it's a constant juggling act for the devs to add challenging content and try to balance it for basically any legitimate setup to complete.

    You are seeking to put those who excel at the game by diminishing what they've been able to do with semantics. I've seen this same argument since the early days of FFXI, nothing is every going to be perfect for every job but it doesn't mean you toss out the entire battle/raid/etc altogether. If you want to find something to complain about how about we address the overuse of DPS checks and push to have more mechanics based battles.
    (11)
    Last edited by Wobi; 01-19-2016 at 01:56 AM.
    Just your friendly neighborhood elezen

  2. #2
    Player
    Brianmj's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2014
    Posts
    416
    Character
    Brian Jones
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Wobi View Post
    Certain phases in raid battles are difficult and have a lot of damage going out, which tax the healers and allow for additional things to go wrong. If you have the ability to push a percentage based mechanic out and skip it entirely why would you not try?
    I don't think healers should have the power to eschew people from playing certain jobs because they want their life easier. I would never tell anyone they could not come to Thordan Ex because of the job they played. Honestly, what's more of a problem, not being able to skip phases, or losing subscribers because the job they like and feel comfortable with is being shunned by a whole community?
    (4)
    Last edited by Brianmj; 01-18-2016 at 05:14 AM.

  3. #3
    Player
    Elim's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Posts
    1,852
    Character
    Elim Lovecraft
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Wobi View Post
    If you want to find something to complain about how about we address the overuse of DPS checks and push to have more mechanics based battles.
    Screw DPS checks. Can we have HEALER checks??? Most of a raid boss can be solo healed, and even the healer solo healing can DPS. Healing on this game is too easy. I want fights where healing is so intense DPS is rarely possible for either healer.

    I'm not anti-healer DPS btw. I'd be bored out of my skull if I didn't DPS because healing in this game is too easy. SWTOR is a terrible game in many ways, but even dungeon healing there can be more intense than endgame raid healing here. :/
    (13)
    Recently returned player.

  4. #4
    Player
    Jeykama's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    Ul'dah
    Posts
    780
    Character
    Meru Maru
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Elim View Post
    Screw DPS checks. Can we have HEALER checks???
    Check out A4S before you wish too hard, no matter what strat you use the brunt is on the healers.
    (0)

  5. #5
    Player
    Elim's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Posts
    1,852
    Character
    Elim Lovecraft
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Jeykama View Post
    Check out A4S before you wish too hard, no matter what strat you use the brunt is on the healers.
    My raid groups causal (scrubs). We haven't downed AS4 yet but AS3 (and 1,2) healing is a joke.
    (0)
    Recently returned player.

  6. #6
    Player
    Hellboy-sa's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2015
    Posts
    44
    Character
    Hellboy Sa
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Elim View Post
    My raid groups causal (scrubs). We haven't downed AS4 yet but AS3 (and 1,2) healing is a joke.
    when you try healing A4S come back to me

    and say it was easy

    as for A3S its easy to heal looking at how last phase force you to not DPS

    and tanks go full DPS stance at final phase to regain the DPS lost from healers unable to DPS
    (4)
    Last edited by Hellboy-sa; 01-18-2016 at 09:48 PM.

  7. #7
    Player
    Elim's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Posts
    1,852
    Character
    Elim Lovecraft
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Hellboy-sa View Post
    as for A3S its easy to heal looking at how last phase force you to not DPS
    S
    Not really. I can still DPS when I don't have the DPS debuff. There are short breaks/moments between mechanics where I can quickly switch to cleric stance and put up a couple dots and/or put up shadow flare. I can even DPS during the "mini phase", as my group calls it, where the hand takes a healer. Even if I'm picked I cleric stance swiftcast+put shadow flare up before the hand takes me so that both the boss and the hand at least takes a tiny bit of damage from me.

    I wasn't going to say anything about AS4 because that's just one fight where it's hard. That doesn't disprove the lack of healer checks in the game as a whole. I'd like to not be a DPS/healer hybrid in every fight in the game (except one) because healing is too easy. What I want, to be clear, is a whole raid where both healers need to heal 99% of the time. In fact I'd like it to become something normal in future content, instead of something rare.

    Quote Originally Posted by FoxyAreku View Post

    In current gear yes, but if you were progressing in A1 at release the healing was nothing to scoff at.
    I did progress during release and cleared it shortly after. My current group will never be first at anything, and we have to take breaks from raiding due to irl responsibilities, but we try to dive into raids as soon as possible. A1 is coil level healing and there were many times to throw up dots. Even during progression our WHM solo healed at the start so we could push DPS. Everyone knows that SCH do a lot of damage in raids, that's a big reason why we are desired in the current meta. I'd rather they bring us for mainly healing. Again I'm not anti-healer DPS. I try my best to push out as much DPS as possible. But I rather have to push out as much healing as possible.

    As I said screw DPS checks give us healer checks.
    (0)
    Last edited by Elim; 01-19-2016 at 05:21 AM.
    Recently returned player.