Why have the raid if there is no interest in doing it?

[Brianmj]

There is a vested interest in raid groups to "skip phases", correct? And this interest is very strong. It's so strong that if certain jobs do not facilitate skipping phases, they would be shunned. "Why should I invite X job when Z can do it better?" This quote should be familiar to Dragoon and Summoner mains during 2.4. Let's say a fight has four phases, A, B, C and D. No phase is weighted more heavily than any other in wanting to be skipped, correct? If a group could push out so much dps that by the time the tank finished his/her opening enmity combo, the mob would be in phase B, only group compositions that facilitated this would/should be created, right? The current meta is don't invite Paladins for Alexander savage. But phase B has as much interest in being skipped as A, and so on and so forth. So logically there is no interest in doing the raid. Just give raiders the gear.

[Wobi]

Certain phases in raid battles are difficult and have a lot of damage going out, which tax the healers and allow for additional things to go wrong. If you have the ability to push a percentage based mechanic out and skip it entirely why would you not try? There will never be a perfect balance in jobs and this game is far more balanced than most MMOs I've played. In the next phase PLDs might be a must have and people will not want a dark knight or warrior, it's a constant juggling act for the devs to add challenging content and try to balance it for basically any legitimate setup to complete.

You are seeking to put those who excel at the game by diminishing what they've been able to do with semantics. I've seen this same argument since the early days of FFXI, nothing is every going to be perfect for every job but it doesn't mean you toss out the entire battle/raid/etc altogether. If you want to find something to complain about how about we address the overuse of DPS checks and push to have more mechanics based battles.

[Brianmj]

Certain phases in raid battles are difficult and have a lot of damage going out, which tax the healers and allow for additional things to go wrong. If you have the ability to push a percentage based mechanic out and skip it entirely why would you not try?

I don't think healers should have the power to eschew people from playing certain jobs because they want their life easier. I would never tell anyone they could not come to Thordan Ex because of the job they played. Honestly, what's more of a problem, not being able to skip phases, or losing subscribers because the job they like and feel comfortable with is being shunned by a whole community?

[Elim]

If you want to find something to complain about how about we address the overuse of DPS checks and push to have more mechanics based battles.

Screw DPS checks. Can we have HEALER checks??? Most of a raid boss can be solo healed, and even the healer solo healing can DPS. Healing on this game is too easy. I want fights where healing is so intense DPS is rarely possible for either healer.

I'm not anti-healer DPS btw. I'd be bored out of my skull if I didn't DPS because healing in this game is too easy. SWTOR is a terrible game in many ways, but even dungeon healing there can be more intense than endgame raid healing here. :/

[Jeykama]

Screw DPS checks. Can we have HEALER checks???

Check out A4S before you wish too hard, no matter what strat you use the brunt is on the healers.

[Elim]

Check out A4S before you wish too hard, no matter what strat you use the brunt is on the healers.

My raid groups causal (scrubs). We haven't downed AS4 yet but AS3 (and 1,2) healing is a joke.

[Hellboy-sa]

My raid groups causal (scrubs). We haven't downed AS4 yet but AS3 (and 1,2) healing is a joke.

when you try healing A4S come back to me

and say it was easy

as for A3S its easy to heal looking at how last phase force you to not DPS

and tanks go full DPS stance at final phase to regain the DPS lost from healers unable to DPS

[Canadane]

I remember 1.0 Garuda HM and skipping her phases.
Our tank had a literal measuring ruler taped to his monitor so he could accurately figure out the HP % in order for us to withhold and engage properly. It was actually a lot of fun.

[zcrash970]

I understand where the OP is coming, I really do, but I completely disagree with him/her.
If you are going to be part of PROGRESSIVE raiding, you need to be flexible. Some jobs are bound to have advantages in some fights while in other they are complete garbage. If you raid seriously, you probably know how to play the other jobs in the same category as your main. For example, I main SMN, but I know how to play BLM just in case.

It's all about optimizing and sometimes being optimal is more important playing the job you want to play as

[Morzy]

I understand where the OP is coming, I really do, but I completely disagree with him/her.
If you are going to be part of PROGRESSIVE raiding, you need to be flexible. Some jobs are bound to have advantages in some fights while in other they are complete garbage. If you raid seriously, you probably know how to play the other jobs in the same category as your main. For example, I main SMN, but I know how to play BLM just in case.

It's all about optimizing and sometimes being optimal is more important playing the job you want to play as

Yea i honestly knew MNK was at a disadvantage in T9 and there asnt much i could do.