Hamlet Defense

[jojober]

I never thought I would say this... but I miss Hamlet Defense. We had all disciples working together in unison. Sure it was kind of a grind fest, but for me personally, I'd take that grind over the once a day roulettes any day. Anyone else?

[Kotemon]

Didn't they say something about that back during talk about 3.X in the run up to the expansions release?

[Lone-wolfe-02]

Didn't they say something about that back during talk about 3.X in the run up to the expansions release?

They said a lot of things to the run up to HW and how many were actually implemented.

[Belhi]

I don't know what Hamlet defence is but my experience is the best way to combat the feeling of grind is to offer variety of activities.

I think new options can always help.

[jojober]

Hamlet was a part of the relic grind in 1.xx that was kind of like fates i guess. Except they involve all disciplines and player contribution.

[Pence]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHSi5tHwosU

Hamlet

[Mimilu]

For those who don't know, Hamlet Defense was from 1.x.
Essentially, you would help a small village or hamlet get ready for attacks by beastmen.
It was separated into two phases: Preparation and Battle Phase.
During the Preparation phase, which took 50-hours, crafters and gathers could turn in items the hamlet's quartermaster asked for or any kind of materia-enhanced gear, while the fighting classes could Caravan Security missions to help effect the hamlet in positive ways.
Then, during the Battle phase, which took 25-hours, you would go into instanced fights to do things like defeating enemy leaders or protecting the hamlet's supplies. Even crafter and gatherers played their parts, with crafters making weapon from things in the hamlet, while gatherers stole alchemical pots from the beastmen to do various debuffs to them.
FATEs took some of these ideas and rolled with it. >3>

[myahele]

After Diadem, I don't think I want DoH/DoL to be included in such "open world" events anymore

[SaitoHikari]

After Diadem, I don't think I want DoH/DoL to be included in such "open world" events anymore

The devs' main mistake was forcing combat and DoH/DoL classes into the same parties for Diadem. If they had an option for people to queue into strictly combat and strictly gathering parties, I don't think it would have been anywhere near as much of an issue.

It doesn't sound like you needed to be in a party for this Hamlet Defense thing, at least.

[Mimilu]

It doesn't sound like you needed to be in a party for this Hamlet Defense thing, at least.

No, you had to be in a full party and be at least level 45 to join.
However, Hamlet Defense had more of a goal then Diadem does and you were rewarded based off of points you, your party, and the Hamlet accumulated.

Things that rewarded points:
-Hamlet readiness level (flat multiplier, level 2 hamlet = 2X bonus applied on final score)
-Time remaining.
-Number of surviving non-player characters.
-Number of enemies killed by non-player characters.
-Number of enemies killed.
-Number of times that DoL/DoH effects have been used.
-Number of deaths.
-Number of provision craters remaining.
-Using all different types of DoL/DoH effects.
-Using multiple DoH/DoL effects at the same time.
-Top 20 provisioner present in party.
-Not having any battle line breached.
-Killing "special" enemies (such as beastmen with unique weapons or "scout" animals).

-Emote use:
/psych targeting oneself before the first wave begins.
/rally targeting the troop NPCs before the first wave begins.
/laugh targeting the beastmen leader right after he spawns.

-Gear condition:
Score bonus by using level 10 or below weapon / tool.
Score bonus by using broken (0% durability) weapon/tool.

-Party composition:
All party members on the same class.
All party members on the same job.
All party members on different classes.
All disciplines of war present.
All disciplines of magic present.
All discipline types present (at least 1 DoL, 1 DoH, 1 DoW and 1 DoM).
All party members on same discipline type.
Number of party members using a job crystal.