What if raids had these?

[Odett]

Let's just leave everything fun out of the game because idiots can't handle it and might inconvenience someone in duty finder.

There's a difference between a hypothetical organized group agreeing to purposely make a fight more difficult in order to earn an achievement and a defunct group of anonymous players who may already have trouble clearing a dungeon now also having a harder time because that one guy who already brings the group down also wants to get their achievement.

Maybe it wouldn't be a bad idea to make these achievements only be earned by pre-formed groups if they were ever implemented? It would make more sense to have everyone on board than have random DF players decide they wanna do a fight a certain way and others going against that.