Quote Originally Posted by Nero View Post
You said LNC dont have AoE's at all, i proved you wrong.

Now you are going from, LNC not having AoE's to MRD > LNC? Make up your mind. I Never said that LNC AoE's are decent, i just stated that they exist unlike you said they dont.

In fact MRD can pull out more DPS if you have Mobs clustered around you, but thats about it. Go on a single Target and LNC will out-DD every MRD easy, if you know how to play it. But thats far away from the original Topic right now, so i will stop at this point.
I think he knows LNC have AoE WS (Well the only real AE is Heavy Trammel, the rest are directional), but I think it was in reference that none of them are worth it when compared to MRD's Storm's Path. As I posted earlier in the thread, MRD sitting and spamming Storms Path in an AoE environment triples LNC's output.

That isn't solely because Storm's Path is -that- much stronger (well it is) its also because MRD can go 0-3000% TP in one swing, keen flurry, and pop off 2x instantly while the LNC is still sitting at 900% TP.


Also saying all LNC > MRD is very naive and shows that you haven't played MRD at all post patch. MRD can do identical single target DPS that LNC's can do, it just takes more work than using 1 WS button. Here lets compare numbers:

Buffed Maim vs Doomspike = identical damage
Unbuffed Storms Path vs Unbuffed DS/Chaos Thrust = identical damage per TP usage
MRD normal hits do 30-50 on Ifrit, while LNC's do 15ish.
LNC gains TP slightly quicker due to better invigorate and speed surge

All other facets of a fight past that are the same for all classes.

So its a wash, they do identical damage if you know how to play it right. I'm usually the top DPS on ifrit as LNC (thats with killing him, so other ppl aren't slacking) and when I swap to MRD I still am the top DPS. Its all about knowing how to play the game really.

PGL is also very similar but could never be the top because it lacks a good filler WS when Victimize is down, so it lags behind but not by a whole lot. ARC is just lol... now tho.