What if Nocturnal Sect...

[Bebekurenai]

It was never intended to be like adlo. Why do you (people who always compare it to sch/whm) keep comparing it? It's a unique job, similar to its co-buddies, but different. I will actually dare to say it's superior to adlo since it's instant cast. Now go to the pvp forums and dare saying it's inferior to adlo >_>

[DarkmoonVael]

It was never intended to be like adlo. Why do you (people who always compare it to sch/whm) keep comparing it? It's a unique job, similar to its co-buddies, but different. I will actually dare to say it's superior to adlo since it's instant cast. Now go to the pvp forums and dare saying it's inferior to adlo >_>

The AST sects get compared to WHM/SCH since thats how the devs originally described AST as functioning and continued to describe it this way for quite some time. Community hears this, then community goes "omg its so bad compared to WHM/SCH" (silly sexy community).

OP, although your idea sounds good, what AST really needs now is time to prove itself in the new raid environment to those who just write the class off. Hopefully midas will show those naysayers what AST is capable of. I know i intend to be starting that raid cycle as an AST.

[Ghishlain]

The AST sects get compared to WHM/SCH since thats how the devs originally described AST as functioning and continued to describe it this way for quite some time. Community hears this, then community goes "omg its so bad compared to WHM/SCH" (silly sexy community).

OP, although your idea sounds good, what AST really needs now is time to prove itself in the new raid environment to those who just write the class off. Hopefully midas will show those naysayers what AST is capable of. I know i intend to be starting that raid cycle as an AST.

Calling it right now - even if AST is successful in Midas, there will (unfortunately) be naysayers that will then say "But Midas is nerfed compared to Gordias!"

...I really do hope AST can be successful in Midas and there won't be any rhetoric like the above >>; Time will tell.

[CyrilLucifer]

It was never intended to be like adlo. Why do you (people who always compare it to sch/whm) keep comparing it? It's a unique job, similar to its co-buddies, but different. I will actually dare to say it's superior to adlo since it's instant cast. Now go to the pvp forums and dare saying it's inferior to adlo >_>

No way is Noct sect better than a crit Adlo. That's crazy. The instant cast in nice, but a Crit adlo is flat out godly. I'd argue it borders on broken good.

That is exactly the issue, though. AST cannot replace SCH in progression because it's not as strong defensively (and other things, like damage and MP management, but that's beside the point), so they're only competing for the WHM slot. They must be compared. Non-progression in this game is extremely easy and can be slept through, so you probably wouldn't need Noct Stance anyway unless you're doing the ball eating in Alex 4, since WHM and AST regens stack.

[Lyrica_Ashtine]

No way is Noct sect better than a crit Adlo. That's crazy. The instant cast in nice, but a Crit adlo is flat out godly. I'd argue it borders on broken good.

I don't think comparing something with less than 20% chance against something guaranteed is the right way to do it