About Global Servers / グローバルサーバーについて

[Shipp]

they should force global servers on everyone like they did on xi. there aren't enough players to go around to afford these many distinctions. and those who don't like it could us a cup of tolerance for other cultures.

what do you care if some jps don't want to party with you? its not like they are taking up the spot of a party who would.

They should force segregation on everyone and cut down the amount of servers so they're all full.

See how "forcing" logic works?

[AmyRae]

I've always appreciated the international aspect of Final Fantasy Online, and how there is activity 24 hours a day because of it. Not everyone always gets along, but that happens even if you isolated servers by country. I appreciate having the opportunity to bridge the gap across very different languages and cultures. It makes the "meta-game" so much more enriching that way.

[Kio]

Sucks for me though, as the majority of my XP parties are during JP prime time, which is what triggered me to learn the basics of the language. Now instead of taking 10 minutes to find people online when I am, I find no one

Not necessarily, worldless content should help with this. You many not be able to run down to Iron Lake with a party, but you'd might be able to gain SP in other activities.
Won't be quite the same thing, I understand, but at least with the worldess model those in the minority time zones won't be completely up the creek without a paddle.

[Chezen]

While I am sad to hear about these servers, at the same time, there's no point in trying to make anyone do anything they don't want to do. There are Japanese who read our threads you know. How would you feel if someone said you should be forced to do something? This thread just enforces their need for language specific servers. It's not helping against it.

Really, I didn't see the need for language servers to begin with. People who didn't want to interact have already segregated themselves. But now that the announcement has been made, there is no going back. Simply due to the group nature of the Japanese, I can see most of them going to the language only servers, simply because their friends did, not because they really wanted to themselves. But that is their choice, and there is nothing we can do about it.

Additional thought: One thing about having language/global servers, at least you will know the people on the global servers want cultural exchange. Maybe it will make them a nice place to be. *hopes*

[Feldt]

Global servers are a defining characteristic of online SE games and one that draws me to them: playing with the world, particularly JPNs.

As some may know, there was a huge outlash in Japan when SE first allowed "gaijin" (read: outsiders) on their servers in FFXI. Many quit and never came back.

Some of this was for good reason. When the first batch of "ZOMG FF" Americans landed in FFXI's servers, they were rude, and did not observe many of the common respects that Japanese players had been offering to one another for a long time before we showed up. Japan tends to be a very polite and respectful society, even in an online setting, and that doesn't always mesh well with American behavior.

At the same time, it opened a lot of opportunities: After the initial batch of rude flavor of the month players left, American's learned how to say "ohayo," and started trying to bridge the gap between the cultures. The Japanese had an opportunity to practice their English, which is actually something most of them really enjoy and sometimes pay big money to do.

With that said, Japan tends to be an extremely xenophobic society (see: nihonjinron), and will curl up in their ball of "leave us to our closed society," given the opportunity. If these Japanese Language servers are opened, you will be lucky to see one JPN on any other server.

So, I, for one, say force them to play with us. Force us to play with them. Intercultural relations and friendships are some of the most mind opening and cultivating experiences one can have in life. (I can say this, my wife is JPN)

Thanks for the read, and I hope the devs will consider these opinions.

Amen to that.
Fully approve of what OP said. Servers should be mixed as they ware untill now.

[Vahriel]

It should definitely stay as is, there is no reason to segregate people by race. Its ridiculous any other way. Also, I'm in the situation wherein 90% of the time, I have to play with Japanese people anyway. It's fine, I know the language enough to get by, but I wanna be with people that I can speak English too as well, because, that's my native tongue, I can speak it perfectly, without a weird language/communication barrier.

I live in Australia, it's only 1-2 hours time difference from here to Japan, and almost a 12 hour difference to America, and it's just as bad for Europe, what this means is, if this was implemented, either I would be forced to wake up at 5am, and skip school to get things done as a group, or be forced into solo play, unable to do things that I'd really like to do, such as, Ifrit, for a recent example.

So to mimic the OP, please, SE, do not implement this. It is a horrible idea.

[Rane]

I will probably get jumped for saying this, but I don't necessarily mean it in a bad way. And sadly, it's a little known truth among XI/XIV gamers.

Japanese people are extremely racist, in general. Japan is one of the most nationalistic countries in existence. They have an overwhelming pride of what is Japan and look down on almost anyone that isn't Japanese. Now, of course there are exceptions, and Japan is by no means tiny, so when you play something like a video game that appeals to a specific group of people (gamers), you may not see the problem as much as it exists. But the fact that the Japanese community is the only community really pushing segregated servers really says a lot. Some English speaking players push for it as well, but not even close to as many English speaking players care about the issue.

I'm from the U.S., but I lived in Japan for seven years. What you say is absolutely not true. It is a myth that is especially prevalent among Final Fantasy XI players. People in Japan are for the most part much less nationalistic than people in the United States. Racism exists in Japan as it does in the U.S., though it is of a somewhat different variety. Naturally, xenophobia also exists. But the image you have of Japan does not reflect reality.

[DNO]

The "child" in his analogy is Japanese players.

Why am I replying to DNO...

Ummm... i did not get that. Im 100% sure he was talking to me. If i am wrong then i take back what i said about him but i did not think i am. Also who are you? i Love it when people say... "o why am i replying" then all they do is reply... thats what trolls do son...

[DNO]

The irony here being that you flare up (like a child) in response to an analogy that was referring specifically to the Japanese players (the child) being "coerced" to try something new: global servers (the food).

The further irony being that you tell the OP to learn to read, when it is clearly you with the reading comprehension problems, given that you could not understand from the post that it was not directed at you at all.

Well i did not get that. After his first part of his post where he talks about me not liking JP players was fasle i did flare up. No where did i say that. so excuse the flare i do not like it when people say stuff that i never said. Either way i will live beause what i said stands.

DO NOT put words in my mouth.

[Sontawila]

I am 100% against segregated servers.

Ping is an issue, yes. But what made you think that language specific servers will physically resides in their respective region? Do you think that French speaking servers will be placed in France or Euro