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    Quote Originally Posted by AnnietheCat View Post
    Also cut for length.
    I did say I liked and supported the idea of them adding a generic memorial for all players to use for any reason. The request should have stopped there.
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    In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neira View Post
    I did say I liked and supported the idea of them adding a generic memorial for all players to use for any reason. The request should have stopped there.
    But you did let it be known that you don't approve of the way some people choose to grieve since it's "making a spectacle of someone's passing", and it came off judgmental. I realize this is a soundless medium and it should be taken at face value, but a generic "memorial" isn't the same as the original request, which is for a way to commemorate a player. This was a request for something very, very specific and those who don't like the idea really didn't have to make judge-y comments about how people grieve or remember someone they cared about.
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    Hmm what AnnietheCat suggested in perfectly reasonable. They could even make it so that you could "engrave" the player names and by clicking on it people could see the list.
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    Firstly, I could not possibly care less about the opinions of most redditors. Secondly, it isn't your place to decide what is or isn't appropriate. This isn't the first time something like this has been requested, in fact it's even been requested on the Japanese forums(it's the only other forum I can read or participate in). It's cool that you don't like it. But if seeing someone's personal memorial to someone they cared about causes you that much distress, I advise you to seek help. Real life does bleed over into the game; real people play these characters and real people go through real life situations. Families have ways to commemorate the deceased, and even their real life friends too. But you make friends in game, sometimes friends for life. Someone expressing their grief has nothing to do with you, and you treating like it does is self centered and arrogant. So again, if merely seeing a memorial like the one requested(which could be used for rp purposes and have nothing to do with real life), you have the problem, not the rest of us.

    edit: also, with 6 million copies sold, what makes you the authority on this topic? You don't act like this when people are grieving publicly offline, so is it just online that bothers you? Because telling someone that their grieving is inconveniencing you by being a "downer" is a dick move and you cross a massive line when you do it. You don't have the right to tell people that how they grieve is inappropriate just because you don't want to see it. Personally, if they weren't my friends I'm callous enough to say I don't care. But I support the right to grieve someone you loved in a way that is healthy for you on an individual level. And AGAIN, the fact that RPers have been requesting this item for a long while now means that many people who /do/ want this item won't be using it for real people. How does any of that have a single thing to do with you? If it causes you distress to see it, don't look at it. Don't read it. If memorials IRL don't bother you, then ones in a video game shouldn't either. It's the same damn thing except one is bad on the environment(hint: it's the one in real life because it takes up space that could be used for other things).
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnnietheCat View Post
    Firstly, I could not possibly care less about the opinions of most redditors. Secondly, it isn't your place to decide what is or isn't appropriate. This isn't the first time something like this has been requested, in fact it's even been requested on the Japanese forums(it's the only other forum I can read or participate in). It's cool that you don't like it. But if seeing someone's personal memorial to someone they cared about causes you that much distress, I advise you to seek help. Real life does bleed over into the game; real people play these characters and real people go through real life situations. Families have ways to commemorate the deceased, and even their real life friends too. But you make friends in game, sometimes friends for life. Someone expressing their grief has nothing to do with you, and you treating like it does is self centered and arrogant. So again, if merely seeing a memorial like the one requested(which could be used for rp purposes and have nothing to do with real life), you have the problem, not the rest of us.
    Tbh, I would say your overly defensive reaction to what she posted is a problem. I mean really, you are trying to turn a thread with a request like this into an internet fight. Her post wasn't offensive in the least. It was an opinion that she is free to express on theses forum.

    Just as the request can be submitted to show that some people want something, others can voice how they don't want a feature.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whiteroom View Post
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    Since there is no method of downvoting, simply commenting with "I don't agree" would suffice. Instead, people intentionally came here being judgmental about the way people want to grieve. I don't agree with OP's request at all. I think a statue of a player is....a bit too gaudy. But to come here and be blatantly disrespectful and calling their grief "making a public spectacle of someone's passing" or to imply that they are in any way inconvenienced by the way a person grieves, which has jack shit to do with them, is ridiculous. I'm not being defensive, I'm being blunt. If they could do it, so can I. But asking for something like this is no different than real life public memorials to people, so either they need to figure out their problems with grief, or make a simple "I do not agree with this" statement and move on. That's it. That's all that was required, and yet, people chose to be down right rude. So yes, I'm aggravated, if that's what you mean by defensive.
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    I could see people using this feature to make statues of themselves for the kick of it. Not that that is necessarily a bad thing.
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    It's really sad how vile some of you people are. Kindness doesn't hurt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crc0427 View Post
    It's really sad how vile some of you people are. Kindness doesn't hurt.
    Since when is not agreeing with someone vile. As has been said there is no downvote button so the only way to say you disagree with something is to post.

    Also to others, A simple "I dont agree" wouldn't be suffice. That adds nothing to the conversation. If everyone just said, I agree or disagree there is no way at all to improve on parts that those people disagree on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrea View Post
    Since when is not agreeing with someone vile. As has been said there is no downvote button so the only way to say you disagree with something is to post.

    Also to others, A simple "I dont agree" wouldn't be suffice. That adds nothing to the conversation. If everyone just said, I agree or disagree there is no way at all to improve on parts that those people disagree on.
    Who said disagreeing is vile? I said some of the comments are vile. If you think disagreeing is vile, then that's on you.
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