Ideas for Monk

[Burningskull]

Please note that I have not and will not play PvP so all these ideas come from a PvE standpoint.

Haymaker - I think this should be put on a 30s or 60s cool down off the global timer. You could remove the slow effect or lower the potency a little or maybe both to compensate.

Touch of Death, One Ilm Punch - I think these should be swapped somewhat. I think One Ilm Punch should have Touch of Death's DoT effect at a reduced tp cost. (Touch of Death isn't worth 80 tp to me). For Touch of Death, I think it should be a ranged attack that works like Wave Fist from Final Fantasy Tactics. That way lower lvl Monks could pull enemies out of groups to help lvling.

Arm of the Destroyer - Not sure what you could do with this move except raise it's potency and possibly remove the silence effect to compensate???

Purification - Should be unconnected from Chakra stacks. It's on a 2min timer and doesn't even recover as much tp as Invigorate.

Meditation, Forbidden Chakra - I think they should do away with Meditation and just give you Forbidden Chakra. When you learn Forbidden Chakra you then start accumulating Chakra stacks when you use Snap Punch, Demolish, or Rock Breaker from their preferred stances or during Perfect Balance, similar to Wrath stacks on Warrior.

Tornado Kick - I think when you learn Tornado Kick you should unlock a forth Grease Lightning stack that doesn't increase your damage or attack speed, but allows you to use Tornado Kick once every 60s. It also shouldn't remove this 4th GL stack or your other stacks.

What are your thoughts?

[ChalupaBatman]

Most of these are straight DPS increases which isnt what MNK needs. MNK's DPS is the best in the game. the only thing that MNK needs is offensive party utility. I think they could add the offensive utility to one ilm punch, but it would have to be unique and create synergy with the other classes. That is the one thing that MNK lacks synergy not DPS.

[Burningskull]

I was just trying to make some of the skills I hardly use have more of a use lol. I admit I don't do end game raiding so party synergy isn't much of a concern for me. But I do see your point for that sort of thing.

[Krindor]

ToD, Forbidden chakra, Purification and tornado kick are all well balanced and aren't in need of any changes imo. Arm of the destroyer, Haymaker, One Ilm Punch though really needs a change. But I would say the only change AotD needs is a tp reduction. It's TP cost is just too high to be of any use. One Ilm Punch just like Shalupa said should just offer some kind of offensive utility. Haymaker.... well what to do with this even.. Probably just increase potency, its actual use is for soloing so I would just keep it at that.

[TitaniaYaerem]

Most of these are not really what MNK needs.

Haymaker-Primarily only used while leveling because it is proc base by evading an attack. You'll never use this at level cap unless you are tanking something.
Touch of Death-It IS worth the 80TP if the target doesn't die before the DoT runs its full course.
Tornado Kick-Was meant to be a finisher or you know you're going to lose your stacks regardless so in exchange for losing your stacks anyways you just pop TK and make use of your lose.
Chakras-Was meant to make use of your downtime to prepare your next opening rotation after a transition.
Arm-Remove silence and add potency? So you want it to be like Rockbreaker but cost 10 more TP?

MNK doesn't need damage adjustments, they're actually in a good place. The only thing we bring raid wise is just our personal DPS and Mantra(Maybe DK if the group doesn't run DRK)

[Burningskull]

How is Touch of Death worth 80 tp when it does significantly lower damage than Demolish which is only 50 tp.

[Houston009]

How is Touch of Death worth 80 tp when it does significantly lower damage than Demolish which is only 50 tp.

Because it does significantly more damage than every other GCD.

[Burningskull]

Last time I calculated Touch of Death on a lvl 60 dummy it does 1400 total. Demolish did 2100 total. That's un-grease lightninged.

[Houston009]

Rough math(Dragon Kick)(No buffs)

p = potency

Bootshine: 165p
-Critshine: 247p~
Dragon Kick: 165p
True Strike: 209p
Twin Snakes: 154p
Snap Punch: 198p
Demolish: 357p

Touch of Death: 272p

[Burningskull]

That's interesting. How did you calculate those?