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    Switching from Ast to Whm and looking for tips.

    So I finally got my Whm to lvl 50 which was a pain in the neck, but I have a feeling that I'm only doing "meh" with the job. So I'm looking for advice to better myself.
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    Psycho Bunny
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    Well hard to critique when we don't know what you are having issues with, but play it for another week or so and then see. 50+ is different from leveling, as level 50 content is more 8 person vs just 4 which makes healing easier and so on. Start with even Ifrit Hard mode, Garuda, then Titan as they go up in difficulty, aren't too long, have 8 person so you have a second healer to help. Would be good practice that way, otherwise let us know what you're having issues with. MP management? DPS? Keeping the tank alive?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 416to305 View Post
    Well hard to critique when we don't know what you are having issues with, but play it for another week or so and then see. 50+ is different from leveling, as level 50 content is more 8 person vs just 4 which makes healing easier and so on. Start with even Ifrit Hard mode, Garuda, then Titan as they go up in difficulty, aren't too long, have 8 person so you have a second healer to help. Would be good practice that way, otherwise let us know what you're having issues with. MP management? DPS? Keeping the tank alive?
    I'm not having Mp problems even after Holy spam, but I am having problems with large pulls. With Ast it was easy collective unconscious + aspected benefic + Time Dilation= 4 or 5 gravity's, but with Whm is it just divine seal + medic 2 + regan= holy spam or something, because even with that I can't seem to keep the tanks health from dropping pass 50% after my 2ND or 3rd holy.
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigcat9715 View Post
    I'm not having Mp problems even after Holy spam, but I am having problems with large pulls. With Ast it was easy collective unconscious + aspected benefic + Time Dilation= 4 or 5 gravity's, but with Whm is it just divine seal + medic 2 + regan= holy spam or something, because even with that I can't seem to keep the tanks health from dropping pass 50% after my 2ND or 3rd holy.
    Firstly, welcome to the job. I don't recommend M2 in that situation--it's a slow cast and if you need more than regen (+ asylum when you hit 60), you're probably in trouble anyway.

    You want to get a holy off quickly to stun the mobs and thus stop DPS on the tank for a little bit. That's really the key part. If the tank's still dropping that quickly, tell them to start actually pushing their tank buttons : P
    If they're still dropping like a rock, probably very undergeared (but make sure your own gear is good--it makes a big difference on those heals), it may be better to just heal (use your judgment). Remember that benediction can be used in cleric stance, so you can experiment with how long you can stay in cleric's as long as you don't wait too long to push that bene button.

    More general advice: WHM is all about precasting, which really just comes with practice in specific encounters. And use those freecure procs and regen whenever you can, that's your most efficient healing.
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    Last edited by Risvertasashi; 01-14-2016 at 12:52 AM. Reason: 1000chr

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    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
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    Coming from a player who secondary is an SCH, I really hate Benediction CD. Bene is just a mega cure with no other effect with a 5 min CD so I'm really nervous to use it. When do you use?
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    Judy Hopps
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigcat9715 View Post
    Coming from a player who secondary is an SCH, I really hate Benediction CD. Bene is just a mega cure with no other effect with a 5 min CD so I'm really nervous to use it. When do you use?
    When the tank uses no damage reduction cooldowns, sprints way ahead so you don't have enough time to cast anything once you catch up because they are dying so quickly they will be dead by the time it goes off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigcat9715 View Post
    I'm not having Mp problems even after Holy spam, but I am having problems with large pulls. With Ast it was easy collective unconscious + aspected benefic + Time Dilation= 4 or 5 gravity's, but with Whm is it just divine seal + medic 2 + regan= holy spam or something, because even with that I can't seem to keep the tanks health from dropping pass 50% after my 2ND or 3rd holy.
    It's significantly easier to DPS on WHM. Top the tank off with C2(s) + Asylum, Divine Seal Regen > run up Cleric Stance + Swiftcast > Holy > Assize + PoM > Aero III once you learn it > Holy spam, Shroud used after the first Holy. Keep your mouse/controller poised to drop Cleric Stance and Tetra (gotten at 60) or C2 bomb or Benediction the tank if you have to at a second's notice. Stop DPSing around 30% MP, C1 spam at this point, or if things are almost dead, just keep Holying.

    Don't M2 unless you know other people are going to need some of that M2. It's a waste of time and MP, especially because tanks can be full HP from Regen and Asylum between Holy spams.

    The only thing you should really be noticing at that level is that AST has Essential while WHM has yet to get Tetra, but Holy and Benediction more than make up for it in dungeons.
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