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    Yes, they do read the forums. They even respond sometimes.
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    When it comes to housing. It is best to think they have no handle on it and hope people will pretend its ok. When they say they have something coming every six months. Seriously they have backed themselves so far into a corner, the options available are probably horrible for them.

    They can't even respond to the house reselling fiasco. That is just a yes do it or no don't do it. They have had weeks now to post a simple answer. They have also had a chance to post how many plots are available right now after they implemented the master reclamation system. They have also had time to come out and say if the mansions are just glorified Free company rooms. Spotting a trend?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxyAreku View Post
    Yes, they do read the forums. They even respond sometimes.
    Yea but I'm almost entirely sure that somewhere along the path of What we say --> Dev who reads it --> Translator to JP --> JP Dev the message is distorted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Itseotle View Post
    Yea but I'm almost entirely sure that somewhere along the path of What we say --> Dev who reads it --> Translator to JP --> JP Dev the message is distorted.
    Yeah, too bad they don't have a forum where they can post feedback in their native language (oh wait...). It's likely the case that since JP represents the majority of players, they will listen to the majority opinion for matters when there's a conflict of interests. It also means that when there isn't a conflict of interest they can just go to the majority opinion. Yes, yes... this means that they just save time in every case by reading the JP forums for feedback... That said, JP is the majority, so even if all of NA+EU dis agrees, it would be better than doing the opposite. That also means that if your opinion happens not to align with the feedback the Devs say they listened too, it means your opinion is in the minority.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UBERHAXED View Post
    Yeah, too bad they don't have a forum where they can post feedback in their native language (oh wait...). It's likely the case that since JP represents the majority of players, they will listen to the majority opinion for matters when there's a conflict of interests. It also means that when there isn't a conflict of interest they can just go to the majority opinion. Yes, yes... this means that they just save time in every case by reading the JP forums for feedback... That said, JP is the majority, so even if all of NA+EU dis agrees, it would be better than doing the opposite. That also means that if your opinion happens not to align with the feedback the Devs say they listened too, it means your opinion is in the minority.
    There are more NA players than JP players though, NA is half the player base. (based on latest survey results)
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    Quote Originally Posted by enthauptet View Post
    There are more NA players than JP players though, NA is half the player base. (based on latest survey results)
    In the same link it shows more JP at endgame than NA and EU combined. This also not an official survey and was using particular criteria to determine if a player is counted in the total.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UBERHAXED View Post
    In the same link it shows more JP at endgame than NA and EU combined. This also not an official survey and was using particular criteria to determine if a player is counted in the total.
    So endgame = actual players. And also no date > some data? I'm not sure how you are increasing the validity of your statement that JP has more players. The JP player market may be their designed market and preferred playerbase but that has nothing to do with the number of players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by enthauptet View Post
    So endgame = actual players. And also no date > some data? I'm not sure how you are increasing the validity of your statement that JP has more players. The JP player market may be their designed market and preferred playerbase but that has nothing to do with the number of players.
    While I would debate that incorrect data is worst than no data, that's not relevant here. I'm speaking purely from an efficiency point of view. I know that most players actually come from the US (if not the majority, it's the largest minority) but JP by itself is a good representation of a majority, and as an added plus, its native language. Talking specifically about the US (I guess you can use NA as a whole), since we have freedom of speech and we are a country of immigrants, our opinions will likely differ from each other and we will end up with contradictory feedback. Since Japan is has more of the hive mind (not saying this is bad) mentality due to lack of the former, it's easy to take the opinions of a smaller group here and be confident that it will represent the opinions of a larger group. So for efficiency sake, they would (and rightfully should since it's more efficient in every way) just look at a few sparse topics in the JP forums and compile feedback based on this. Rather than try to read hundreds of threads with differing opinions and flaming (they tend to keep relevant stuff in one topic, rather than making 10 topics and also stay on topic in the posts) then try to make a decision as to which side they should take, then go to the translator and hope the rather colorful English actually convey what we want (we also tend to use sarcasm a lot in English, which doesn't help...).

    The obvious solution is to:
    1. Not make 10 topics on the same subject and just keep posting on the same topics
    2. Keep irrelevant stuff (e.g. ad hominem) to a minimum and post what you want them to actually take back to the dev team
    3. Be serious when posting. All it takes is for them to take one sarcastic comment seriously, and we get the opposite of what we want because that's exactly what we said. This also means eliminating the troll topics and troll posts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UBERHAXED View Post
    Yeah, too bad they don't have a forum where they can post feedback in their native language (oh wait...). It's likely the case that since JP represents the majority of players, they will listen to the majority opinion for matters when there's a conflict of interests. It also means that when there isn't a conflict of interest they can just go to the majority opinion. Yes, yes... this means that they just save time in every case by reading the JP forums for feedback... That said, JP is the majority, so even if all of NA+EU dis agrees, it would be better than doing the opposite. That also means that if your opinion happens not to align with the feedback the Devs say they listened too, it means your opinion is in the minority.
    The majority of players on JP data center perhaps but all the other data centers are English heavy with NA being the vast majority of players in the game as a whole.
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