How about a non-support ranged dps?

[Xanikk999]

Since Bards and Machinists are both labled as "Support DPS" and saddled with the accompanying lower dps and weapon damage how about they add a ranged non-caster dps that isn't?

I think we could use a ranger class like from FFXI.

[RiceisNice]

It'd be a mess with party composition if they insist on requiring there to be at least 1 job that provides regen, and they'd naturally be competing with caster dps (which then leads to an all-physical composition)

[Xanikk999]

It'd be a mess with party composition if they insist on requiring there to be at least 1 job that provides regen, and they'd naturally be competing with caster dps (which then leads to an all-physical composition)

Well then how are they going to justify adding any new DPS classes then?

[Bloodb]

I love bard, I love machinist.

I'd like to see these changed and given more dps. So they are support classes, but they only do less damage because they are giving support. Increase dps, and if SE must increase the casting time of mages ballad.


Right now they do less damage than everyone else even while never casting promotion/mages ballad/armies paeon.

[FoxyAreku]

Well then how are they going to justify adding any new DPS classes then?

By fitting them into the roles we have.

TBH we need more magic users. Only having 2 mage dps is really lacking.

[Xanikk999]

By fitting them into the roles we have.

TBH we need more magic users. Only having 2 mage dps is really lacking.

So then do you agree with them adding Samurais? We have enough melee DPS.

[Rhindas]

I personally wasn't even expecting Machinist to be another Bard when it was announced. I thought it was their answer to the lack of pure physical ranged DPS. And honestly I don't know why they thought the two classes had to be so similar in the first place. But it happened, so, here we are. It was clear the Minuet/Gauss was their answer to a "DPS stance" but it didn't work out the way they intended so I'm curious to see future updates to the jobs.

[Xanikk999]

I personally wasn't even expecting Machinist to be another Bard when it was announced. I thought it was their answer to the lack of pure physical ranged DPS. And honestly I don't know why they thought the two classes had to be so similar in the first place. But it happened, so, here we are. It was clear the Minuet/Gauss was their answer to a "DPS stance" but it didn't work out the way they intended so I'm curious to see future updates to the jobs.

Agreed. I don't understand their decision to make mechanic a near carbon copy of BRD.

[Calypsx]

So then do you agree with them adding Samurais? We have enough melee DPS.

Red Mage is probably going to be the next DPS.

[MagiusNecros]

So then do you agree with them adding Samurais? We have enough melee DPS.

Different topic of debate entirely. If it was me Dark Knight's would have been postponed and Samurai added first as a tank class. As it stands I look at Dark Knight as Dark Paladin. And am vastly disappointed in how it performs. Good 30-50 job quests in story content though. 50-60 unfortunately were ass.