How about a non-support ranged dps?

[Xanikk999]

Since Bards and Machinists are both labled as "Support DPS" and saddled with the accompanying lower dps and weapon damage how about they add a ranged non-caster dps that isn't?

I think we could use a ranger class like from FFXI.

[RiceisNice]

It'd be a mess with party composition if they insist on requiring there to be at least 1 job that provides regen, and they'd naturally be competing with caster dps (which then leads to an all-physical composition)

[Xanikk999]

It'd be a mess with party composition if they insist on requiring there to be at least 1 job that provides regen, and they'd naturally be competing with caster dps (which then leads to an all-physical composition)

Well then how are they going to justify adding any new DPS classes then?

[FoxyAreku]

Well then how are they going to justify adding any new DPS classes then?

By fitting them into the roles we have.

TBH we need more magic users. Only having 2 mage dps is really lacking.

[Xanikk999]

By fitting them into the roles we have.

TBH we need more magic users. Only having 2 mage dps is really lacking.

So then do you agree with them adding Samurais? We have enough melee DPS.

[Calypsx]

So then do you agree with them adding Samurais? We have enough melee DPS.

Red Mage is probably going to be the next DPS.

[MagiusNecros]

So then do you agree with them adding Samurais? We have enough melee DPS.

Different topic of debate entirely. If it was me Dark Knight's would have been postponed and Samurai added first as a tank class. As it stands I look at Dark Knight as Dark Paladin. And am vastly disappointed in how it performs. Good 30-50 job quests in story content though. 50-60 unfortunately were ass.

[Marxam]

By fitting them into the roles we have.

TBH we need more magic users. Only having 2 mage dps is really lacking.

that is true but an int based melee is also not too far off. Red Mage and Dancer to name a few and I imagine they would be the melee equivalent of a "support" dps.

So then do you agree with them adding Samurais? We have enough melee DPS.

Personally I think when they add new jobs they should always release them in 4's. One tank, one melee, one ranged and one healer. HW only had three but NIN was released early so technically they satisfied the quota I stated earlier.

[SendohJin]

Well then how are they going to justify adding any new DPS classes then?

So then do you agree with them adding Samurais? We have enough melee DPS.

math is hard

4 DPS slots
- 2 melee DPS slots (split between 3 jobs)
- 1 ranged DPS slot (split between 2 jobs)
- 1 magic DPS slot (split between 2 jobs)

you want 4 melee DPS for those 2 slots to get the 1:2 ratio, so there's more than enough room for Samurai as a melee DPS.

[Bloodb]

I love bard, I love machinist.

I'd like to see these changed and given more dps. So they are support classes, but they only do less damage because they are giving support. Increase dps, and if SE must increase the casting time of mages ballad.


Right now they do less damage than everyone else even while never casting promotion/mages ballad/armies paeon.