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    Housing abandoned plots, this is needed SE!!! Thank you!

    A lot of players complain about the housing situation. They want to buy a house, but it is impossible to find free plots on some worlds. Are there any plans to improve the situation?

    NY: Yes, we are working on it, and there are three phases. The first step is working on abandoned houses, so there’s no owner, or player there actually. The second step is to make it available to players that they can move house. There is no system in game yet that can help you to change the house, so we want to help and support this in the game. With these two steps we will be able to have some empty plots. Then we want to see if we have to open up an Ishgard plot or add more plot to the existing areas. That is the third step. We want to be careful here and judge the situation first. We are working on step 1 and 2 already. There will be some updates, probably in patches 3.1 to 3.15, around this time.
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    Taking away stuff from players because they are not active anymore is terrible, and doesn`t even fit as a solution, as the words of yoshida himself say, he thinks that is a solution, and is horrible.
    All i read there is "Why would we work on our coding or servers if we have this lazy alternative that doesn`t even fix the problem but its ok for a few".

    I hope they recosider just like at the first time they did thought of this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander_Dragonfang View Post
    Taking away stuff from players because they are not active anymore is terrible, and doesn`t even fit as a solution, as the words of yoshida himself say, he thinks that is a solution, and is horrible.
    All i read there is "Why would we work on our coding or servers if we have this lazy alternative that doesn`t even fix the problem but its ok for a few".

    I hope they recosider just like at the first time they did thought of this.
    This is a quote from Naoki Yoshida

    Here is the interview

    http://jpgames.de/2015/08/gamescom-2...naoki-yoshida/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander_Dragonfang View Post
    Taking away stuff from players because they are not active anymore is terrible, and doesn`t even fit as a solution, as the words of yoshida himself say, he thinks that is a solution, and is horrible.
    All i read there is "Why would we work on our coding or servers if we have this lazy alternative that doesn`t even fix the problem but its ok for a few".

    I hope they recosider just like at the first time they did thought of this.
    Hoping they re-work their entire system is a pipe dream. I'm 99.9% certain this will never happen; as such some sort of decay timer is a very viable alternative for players who are not active/subbed for extended periods of time.

    I'm glad they're finally going to be doing something about the abandoned plots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander_Dragonfang View Post
    Taking away stuff from players because they are not active anymore is terrible, and doesn`t even fit as a solution, as the words of yoshida himself say, he thinks that is a solution, and is horrible.
    All i read there is "Why would we work on our coding or servers if we have this lazy alternative that doesn`t even fix the problem but its ok for a few".

    I hope they recosider just like at the first time they did thought of this.
    Sorry, but if you're not playing, you're not playing, and you shouldn't be able to hog a limited resource that could be used by other active players. Otherwise you could end up with literally dozens of abandoned houses just sitting around because the players who owned them quit the game, which would mean that either the devs would have to keep adding more and more housing plots to keep up with the demand by new players who would also like to have houses or say "tough luck" to those new players because the available housing has been taken up by people who aren't even playing anymore.

    No, I think it's perfectly fair for houses to be reclaimed if the owner has unsubbed or hasn't logged in for a certain amount of time (probably at least three months).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syrehn View Post
    Pretty sure no one said that this solution will fill 100% of the demand but there is no denying if half of some wards are inactive/banned/un-subbed that it will help get SOME active players/fc's properties. If those players go inactive the decay cycle will continue; it's a recycle system to keep wards from dying out.
    Quote Originally Posted by LunaHoshino View Post
    Sorry, but if you're not playing, you're not playing, and you shouldn't be able to hog a limited resource that could be used by other active players. Otherwise you could end up with literally dozens of abandoned houses just sitting around because the players who owned them quit the game, which would mean that either the devs would have to keep adding more and more housing plots to keep up with the demand by new players who would also like to have houses or say "tough luck" to those new players because the available housing has been taken up by people who aren't even playing anymore.

    No, I think it's perfectly fair for houses to be reclaimed if the owner has unsubbed or hasn't logged in for a certain amount of time (probably at least three months).
    I totally agree and have a little story to share that upsets me pretty much since I found out:
    I left a guild with a couple of other players to start our own bc of some drama. The leader quit playing, the co-leader was also fed up of the drama and also left the fc to join a friend (I told him to sell the house before leaving and enjoy the gil but he just wanted to have peace and leave). His alt got the lead, then an other friend, who later left with his gf for a guild he was before. Not a single active player left in the fc, everyone gets to be the leader for 30 days untill the sytem degrades them and it rotates on and on.
    It's insane and deeply upsetting no one ever sold that plot and it's insane the system allows ghost guilds to exist when me and my firends are saving gil since then for an own house. No house for active players but one for inactive?

    It certainly won't fix the whole problem but I do think it IS a part of the solution
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    Last edited by ValyrianBlood; 08-15-2015 at 05:10 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander_Dragonfang View Post
    Taking away stuff from players because they are not active anymore is terrible, and doesn`t even fit as a solution, as the words of yoshida himself say, he thinks that is a solution, and is horrible.
    All i read there is "Why would we work on our coding or servers if we have this lazy alternative that doesn`t even fix the problem but its ok for a few".

    I hope they recosider just like at the first time they did thought of this.
    You don't own anything in this game, SE has all rights to it you are just paying them monthly to access it... having said that, they are not taking anything from players - the housing board is reclaiming abandoned property so that someone else can use it Hopefully they add new wards as well as I agree that this is not a complete solution - only temporary relief by doing something that should have been in place from the start like every other MMO that has non-instanced housing plots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander_Dragonfang View Post
    Taking away stuff from players because they are not active anymore is terrible, and doesn`t even fit as a solution, as the words of yoshida himself say, he thinks that is a solution, and is horrible.
    All i read there is "Why would we work on our coding or servers if we have this lazy alternative that doesn`t even fix the problem but its ok for a few".

    I hope they recosider just like at the first time they did thought of this.
    I have a friend that bought a house and quit the game
    .. I doubt they are coming back since they deleted all their stuff before they left. The house is still standing though. Empty.
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    Last edited by Vejjiegirl; 08-14-2015 at 12:25 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vejjiegirl View Post
    I have a friend that bought a house and quit the game
    .. I doubt they are coming back since they deleted all their stuff before they left. The house is still standing though. Empty.
    and your friend should lose his house, sorry
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madjames View Post
    and your friend should lose his house, sorry
    I agree he should lose it! I'm Houseless!
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