Balancing melee in PvP

[Nova_Rox]

In JP servers, there are 20smns/blms vs 2 melees ratio. All raining comentors when AR is up. If you tell me melee and range are balance. I... have to disagree. In a 1 vs 1 situation, against cc ranged, most melees are sitting duck. The main problem I see especially paladin is we are unable to chain stun due to the resistance build up over time. Since we have CD on stuns, maybe they should remove the stun resistance in PvP mode?

And for those saying range and melee are balanced, I would like to see your pvp video(s) as a melee (especially paladin) winning a similar geared range class without others CCing for you.

Huh. Is that so? When I was on Tonberry I saw a healthy mix of melee and ranged.

An all ranged PUG will get stomped plain and simple. If you have the coordination to sleep an entire enemy team on a node to ranged LB then I can see the issue. If you're talking about slaughter then ranged were dominating because there was no reason to get close due to no real objectives being present.

In both Secure and Seize melee play a vital role in securing and defending points.

As it currently stands all jobs are, for the most part balanced IN FRONTLINE.

PLD will not win any 1 on 1 VS anything, but they sure as hell can stunlock someone for their team to wreck faces. You seem to not understand that Frontline is a team effort and everyone.

All in all I'm seeing a lot of misinformation in this thread, presumably from PvP beginners thinking melee classes suck because they can't figure out how to use them properly.

I am typing this from my phone while at work so excuse how disorganized everything is

Edit:

Use Sprint. It helps a lot.

[whythehate]

Pld can win 1 v 1 :3

https://youtu.be/msN-_ua-PiY

Big skill difference here, but still a fine battle. Silly melees taking that push back bait XD

[Nova_Rox]

Pld can win 1 v 1 :3

They can, for sure! But I can't see it happening if both are equally skilled.

[Nova_Rox]

I'd also like to add this video to the discussion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3f4g6WNjmE

I too thought melee was unbalanced until I saw this guy wrecking faces.

[FudoMyoo]

I think i should refer to paladin in particular. And that video is not 1vs1 he is just sniping most of the time with range backup.

I play GMT+8 9pm to 1am mostly. Maybe im in a different tonberry. lol

Now in game 11:38pm 24 players

Only 3 melee dps 4 tanks.

[Nova_Rox]

I think i should refer to paladin in particular. And that video is not 1vs1 he is just sniping most of the time with range backup.

I play GMT+8 9pm to 1am mostly. Maybe im in a different tonberry. lol

Now in game 11:38pm 24 players

Only 3 melee dps 4 tanks.

Found the issue!

You think PvP is about 1v1...it isn't.

Change that mindset and you'll be set.

[Chaelyn]

Melees are extremely strong... DRG has insane burst. In terms of Seal Rock or whatever, sure ranged have advantage cause they don't have to jump into multiple people to get skills off but that by no means makes them overpowered or better than melee. Any good melee should be able to take out a ranged job.

[Houston009]

They can, for sure! But I can't see it happening if both are equally skilled.

Tanks have the advantage over Melee DPS, and in most cases will win in a 1v1 against them.

[Vandril]

Because, I have a full set of i180 pvp gear for my primary character who is on Flames (this character is adders, she'd take 11 years to hit max pvp rank on my data center) and when i equip it, my HP does not increase at all from my PVE gear, on my paladin. If morale worked, i should notice a tiny increase, right?

Not if your PvE gear was already at the VIT cap for PvP's item level sync.

I confirmed without doubt that morale and item level sync do interact this way back during ARR, for myself. If it doesn't work now, then it's been changed.

[Dimitrii]

In a 1 vs 1 situation, against cc ranged, most melees enjoy the benefit of receiving a free easy kill against said ranged

Fixed that for you. You are generalizing melees when I think you are just talking about pld specifically so you should just say paladin. Melees like monk and dragoon have gap closers, weapon throw, and fetter ward. Its laughable to imply they would fear a ranged class one on one. They relish the opportunity to run into a lone caster, brd, or mch alone somewhere.