Devs, could all of us please get these outfits that the China region is getting?

[Adire]

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You forgot a few things: Advanced eternal bond, hairstyles, exclusive mount reskins, fantasia, to name a few things. First it started with just fantasia, then old event items, then exclusive dyes for a while, then EB and sleipnir....notice a trend here?

They will continue to expand the cash shop and push the limits of customers because it is very profitable. They've been doing it already, slowly, to ensure people come to accept it as the standard and don't notice it as much. They've also announced less content per patch alongside more cash shop content being released.

I like this game, but it's pretty clear the direction things are going in.

^ Agree with this.

It baffles me that so many people are troubled by cash shop items. How does it really affect your personal game play? Is it envy, or do people enjoy lording unattainable items over others? I'm betting its the latter.

Yes, it affects my gameplay. How? Because I like to work towards things I want in the game, not open my wallet and get them instantly.

[dejiko_san]

You know the reason they got the pretty outfits? It's because it's a different game run by a different company.

It's also a game that had different laws than ours. For example, no skeleton mobs or gambling are allowed.

I would not be surprised if the gold saucer did not exist at all in their build.

[Culfinrandir]

Actually the Metallic dyes in cash shop were originally cash shop only - THEN they made it possible to get a tradeable version in game from ventures. The non-tradeable versions are Cash shop only still.

Nope, Silver & Gold dyes were venture items a long time ago. These new tradeable versions of cash shop items are very recent.

[Culfinrandir]

Yes, it affects my gameplay. How? Because I like to work towards things I want in the game, not open my wallet and get them instantly.

It used to be that you put in the work in-game to get items, now you put in the work in real life to get the items. I firmly believe that everything should be available in game to be worked towards, however hard that work need be. That was exactly how FFXIV started & how it was supposed to be forever, with no pay to win or pay to benefit system.

Before anyone says "not pay to win", well if your goal is to have a nice wedding, wearing nice outfits in the colour you want & riding away on a coloured magitek mount then you HAVE TO PAY. There's no other wording for that than "pay to win" because that is what you feel is winning to you.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

Except it's not pay to "win" because you're not "winning" at anything. You're just buying items to look pretty. No one gets to define what winning means to them.

[Nektulos-Tuor]

Except it's not pay to "win" because you're not "winning" at anything. You're just buying items to look pretty. No one gets to define what winning means to them.

I don't know about you. However I feel like a loser unless I look good. So yes, it technically is paying to win. :P

[Adire]

Except it's not pay to "win" because you're not "winning" at anything. You're just buying items to look pretty. No one gets to define what winning means to them.

If someone feels like a winner by making an awesome looking glamour and gets satisfaction and accomplishment from it, that's just as much of a personal win for the person as someone clearing A4S being a personal win would be.

Not everyone gets the same satisfactions from the same thing, and everyone plays for different reasons. One person's "personal win" is as legitimate as any other person's. No one has any right to tell other people what is and isn't legitimate "winning" for the person. Except Charlie Sheen maybe.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

Except the actual definition of winning something means there's competition involved or some element of overcoming an obstacle such as clearing Alexander Savage. There's simply nothing to "win" when it comes to buying glamours. Everyone gets glamours for various reasons, but there's not a single thing about them that lets you win at something. It isn't "my" definition, but an official definition in most dictionaries.

[Mimilu]

Except the actual definition of winning something means there's competition involved or some element of overcoming an obstacle such as clearing Alexander Savage. There's simply nothing to "win" when it comes to buying glamours. Everyone gets glamours for various reasons, but there's not a single thing about them that lets you win at something. It isn't "my" definition, but an official definition in most dictionaries.

Win
Verb (used without object), won, winning
1. to finish first in some form of contest;
2. to succeed by striving or effort;
3. to gain victory; overcome an adversary or challenge

You could say someone strived to make a successful glamour, especially if they were the one who made the items for it. :B

[Adire]

Except the actual definition of winning something means there's competition involved or some element of overcoming an obstacle such as clearing Alexander Savage. There's simply nothing to "win" when it comes to buying glamours. Everyone gets glamours for various reasons, but there's not a single thing about them that lets you win at something. It isn't "my" definition, but an official definition in most dictionaries.

From the quoted definition above, I think we can conclude that succeeding in making an appealing glamour is indeed winning.