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    With Convert, I'll have enough MP to cast two F4? This is not the first time I read this rotation (Enochian->F3->SC->F4->F4->F1->F4->F4->Convert->F3(from Proc)->F4->F4->B3->B4), so I suppose the answer is yes, but when I use it after Flare in AoE rotation (Flare - Convert - Swiftcast - Flare), I don't have the feeling I have enough MP to cast two F4. Or is there something I really don't understand with Convert?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nephisto View Post
    With Convert, I'll have enough MP to cast two F4? This is not the first time I read this rotation (Enochian->F3->SC->F4->F4->F1->F4->F4->Convert->F3(from Proc)->F4->F4->B3->B4), so I suppose the answer is yes, but when I use it after Flare in AoE rotation (Flare - Convert - Swiftcast - Flare), I don't have the feeling I have enough MP to cast two F4. Or is there something I really don't understand with Convert?
    You won't have enough to cast two after Flare. The first rotation doesn't use up ALL of your MP. So the 2100 or whatever you get from Convert adds to your NON zero amount of MP giving you enough MP to cast 2xF4 and 1xB3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FunkyBunch View Post
    You won't have enough to cast two after Flare. The first rotation doesn't use up ALL of your MP. So the 2100 or whatever you get from Convert adds to your NON zero amount of MP giving you enough MP to cast 2xF4 and 1xB3.
    Ok, I got it! No, I don't want to cast F4 two times after Flare. It's just the MP I get using Convert didn't seems to me enough to cast 2xF4, but it makes sense if after first rotation, using Convert give me enough MP to cast 2xF4. But we have enough time to cast all this (F4->F4->F1->F4->F4->Convert->F3(from Proc)->F4->F4->B3->B4) without losing Enochian? Is it the case we need a lot a piety? If yes, do I go only with this rotation :

    Enochian→F3→SC→F4→F4→F1→F4→F4→F3 proc→B3→T1(if time)→B4
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nephisto View Post
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    But we have enough time to cast all this (F4->F4->F1->F4->F4->Convert->F3(from Proc)->F4->F4->B3->B4) without losing Enochian? Is it the case we need a lot a piety? If yes, do I go only with this rotation :

    Enochian→F3→SC→F4→F4→F1→F4→F4→F3 proc→B3→T1(if time)→B4
    You need a swift cast in the top rotation. And even then it's pretty tough to get through without dropping enochian. You need a PIE buff to get the 6th in there, you may need Spell Speed too, I'm not 100% comfortable with the 6th F4 yet so I can't be certain the total requirements. I just know sometimes I can do it.
    But without buffs you can get 5 F4s no problem.

    So Enochian->F3->SC->F4->F4->F1->F4->F4->Convert->F3 proc->F4->B3->T1->B4 (use Swift on the next rotation to get an extra F4)

    I also like to F3->F4->F1->F4x3 in the second rotation instead of doing F3->F4x2->F1->F4x2. It seems smoother to me, though you may not be able to get a 5th in there with swiftcast if you haven't used it yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FunkyBunch View Post
    So Enochian->F3->SC->F4->F4->F1->F4->F4->Convert->F3 proc->F4->B3->T1->B4 (use Swift on the next rotation to get an extra F4)

    I also like to F3->F4->F1->F4x3 in the second rotation instead of doing F3->F4x2->F1->F4x2. It seems smoother to me, though you may not be able to get a 5th in there with swiftcast if you haven't used it yet.
    Thanks! I'll try it!
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