message from a player to part of the community about jobs

[bardaboo]

Basically if someone is intentionally playing poorly in a group setting (like a dps acn in totorak who was only using ruin because he was doing homework) or is unwilling to learn or take advice on being better or wearing crappy wrong-class gear, stick to fates. Pls. Pls. Pls. Go away. I dont want you in my party. If you are new, and open to suggestions, that's fine. Otherwise i consider is harassment.

[bardaboo]

Now back to the real subject, the problem in the community.

I think we found it. You are the problem. You aren't good at your class, and you don't WANT to be good, so people that you are holding back by forcing them to carry you get frustrated and boot you. If playing poorly is allowed in your mind, then so is booting poor players.

[HoodRat]

I can totally see the OP at every town meeting complaining about how all the bullies pass him on the road because he drives half the speed limit claiming he doesn't want to run out of gas as fast.

[AnaviAnael]

Sensei, constructive criticism (such as what Rice had given you) is not the same as bullying. If I saw someone purposely playing with terrible DPS and unwilling to become better, I'd be angry too. Why? Because now I have to carry the DPS. You want to talk about problems in the community, well there's a big one: People are unwilling to work as a team and expect others to take the burden onto them. I've seen monks do nothing but auto attack while farming tomes, scholars who auto follow tanks while letting their fairy heal, and even people who flag up dungeons as DRK or WAR and think they're pure DPS. By not playing well, you're placing the burden of DPS onto the other person.

[Atoli]

I STILL believe this is a troll thread.

But seriously, WHAT is your problem, OP? You claim in every post that people tell you how to play because they think they are better, but the thing is, THEY ARE.
If everyone does 1300 damage per second and you do 200, and the job of your class IS TO DEAL DAMAGE, then yes, others ARE objectively better. And they don't tell you to change your playstyle because they feel like they get some ego-boost out of it, they do it to help you by telling you how you can deal more DMG as well. Since, you know, that is your your job after all as a Thaumaturge/Blackmage.
Of course there is a problem with people telling you "change because I say so", but again and again people explained to you WHY your method is objectively bad. Read your tooltips. Install a parser and see for yourself. EVERYTHING is hinting on you doing it wrong.
You claim you want to have MP left to save the situation when the other players on your team are bad. But YOU ARE A DAMAGE DEALER. Healing others is not your job. Ressurecting others is not your job (and you won't be able to do it anymore anyways once you become a BLM). Stop trying to do everything yourself, that's what roles are for in a party. Play a healer if that is your true calling, but don't try playing a DPS class like a healer, because all that is resulting in is you not doing anything right, neither the healer role (since your heals are incredibly weak and useless the more you level up and you lose the ability to ressurect) nor the DPS role (because your playstyle causes you to deal dmg only slightly above what you would do if you just stayed at the dungeon entrance, staring at a wall doing nothing).

Also, please stop throwing your weight around just because you have 20 years of gaming experience. Just because you played Snake or Tetris several years ago does not make you qualified to be considered any more than a complete beginner in FFXIV.
That's like applying for a job as a marine biologist because you have 20 years of working experience as a dishwasher. Each job/game is different, so just because you've worked/played for a long time doesn't mean you have ANY idea what is required for the new job/game.

One of the main things wrong with this game are people not taking constructive criticism.
You got 10 pages of that and still don't believe any of it, even when proven wrong again and again. If there is anything wrong with this community, it's people like you who get even the most understanding and clear explanations and still refuse to better themselves, letting others do all the work for them.

[Waliel]

There's no right way nor any wrong way to play any jobs!

Even if technically true, you can be good or bad at your job. I'd go on and say, though, that the right way is to play a job is how the devs intented it to be played.

[UBERHAXED]

I'm making this message because I ended again with some overblown heads who kicked me out because of my playstyle as thaumaturge, which mainly consist of never being manaempty (rotating bliz and fire).

You know, just casting Blizzard is actually more damage and still never runs out of mp. This game should enforce that players read their skills before they are allowed to be randomly matched with other players. In fact, if you just cast fire and blizzard repeatedly for 2 minutes, you would never get mana ticks in UI and you would decrease mp over time to 0 (which means your reasoning is flawed). It's one thing to have a play style, but you should read your skills. What if your skill had the additional effect of increasing enmity, but you don't bother reading it and you make life harder for your party?

[ChameleonMS]

There is, and it literally throws them at you when you get the respective abilties, and explicitly details what they do, and what the stacks themselves do. You'd have to...well...not read, to not know what astral/umbral does.

In my specific case, it was because I raised my THM to like 12, then did not return to the class again until something like 6 months later. Having completely forgotten anything previously read or how to play it.

[T2teddy]

Has to be a troll thread, that is a terrible way to play BLM.

If not, the thread is a valid argument on why we need some form of parser in the game.

Please at least read your tool tips.

The OP is a level 24 THAUMATURGE hence no JOB and no very strong spells yet. Once they hit level 34 for Fire 3, and 38 for Blizz 3 THAT's when the fun starts. Until then its Fire 1, Blizz 1 and transpose TYVM... with Thunder 1 and 2. Fire 2 and Blizz 2 are AoE's

[Whiteroom]

The OP is a level 24 THAUMATURGE hence no JOB and no very strong spells yet. Once they hit level 34 for Fire 3, and 38 for Blizz 3 THAT's when the fun starts. Until then its Fire 1, Blizz 1 and transpose TYVM... with Thunder 1 and 2. Fire 2 and Blizz 2 are AoE's

I believe people, including myself are well aware of his level. Not that it has much to do with the conversation. You may have noticed, I'm not to sure though, since you seem to think finding out he is level 24 in that job is worth a bold and colored font, that he has more classes than that. What does his being level 24 have to do with reading tool tips? He has been slapping people in the face repeatedly with his 20+ years experience, which should cover that.