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  1. #31
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    Almalexia's Avatar
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    Almalexia Indoril
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    Hyperion
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by SenseiSoriel View Post
    Fine, I can understand that some players love to play it like that, but get it in your skull that there's more than one playstyle!
    You have the wrong idea about FFXIV.

    Jobs to not have "builds" or "specs" or "styles." They each have a single, stringent and optimal rotation - an ideal. Every buff and ability fits into a rhythm, which produces The Best Outcome when executed in time. Any deviation from this rhythm is necessarily Not-The-Best Outcome.

    Think of it like DDR. There's only one way to do the dance right and your score falls on a continuum between perfect and not playing at all. Now imagine playing DDR and a bunch of people are throwing silverware at you, or using a rope to tie you to other people playing DDR--that's your FFXIV raid experience.

    The sooner you accept there's one way to do it, the sooner you can start mastering it.
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  2. #32
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    F_Maximillian's Avatar
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    Ferox Maximillian
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    Zalera
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    Paladin Lv 70
    If you mouse over the actual astral fire/umbral ice buffs you can see what they say.
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  3. #33
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    Flo Fyloord
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    Famfrit
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by FunkyBunch View Post
    I think there's an Active Help entry on Astral Fire and Umbral Ice. But if you turned them off like I do, you have to go back and read them ><
    There is, and it literally throws them at you when you get the respective abilties, and explicitly details what they do, and what the stacks themselves do. You'd have to...well...not read, to not know what astral/umbral does.
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  4. #34
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    Nhai Tayuun
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    Ragnarok
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    Black Mage Lv 92
    As someone who has mained BLM for the longest time, reading this thread HURTS me ;_;
    I'll assume the OP is a troll just to protect what little sanity is left inside my torn apart soul.

    Sure, there are several "right" ways to play THM/BLM, but there are only several because each is level-specific since you are lacking the skills to make an even more efficient rotation work yet.
    That's the problem with FFXIV, there are so many people who think they know better when they know literally nothing so they continue being horrible at their class and then make up the worst excuses why it's okay to keep being bad at it.
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  5. #35
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    Calypso Celeste
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    Lamia
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    Archer Lv 60
    I'm pretty sure bots are more efficient than fire 1 -> blizzard 1 -> fire 1 ad nauseam
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  6. #36
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    Flo Fyloord
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamillion View Post
    I'm pretty sure bots are more efficient than fire 1 -> blizzard 1 -> fire 1 ad nauseam
    You'd actually get more dps by being an ice mage at this point, cause your every other spell you do is actually doing less potency while it erases your astral/umbral. and you won't run out of mana compared to alternating between fire/blizzard.
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    Last edited by RiceisNice; 01-12-2016 at 07:40 AM.
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  7. #37
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    SenseiSoriel's Avatar
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    Natt Windchaser
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    Leviathan
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    Ninja Lv 90
    Damn this 1000 character limit cap. Many replies ensuing.

    Quote Originally Posted by AskaRay View Post
    I just noticed something, too. You said you used Transpose and it was "supposedly restore the whole MP bar, which does not happen". That's not how transpose works. All it does is make Astral Fire go to Umbral Ice (and vice-versa), without having to cast two Fire or two Blizzard spells to do it. After transposing from Astral Fire into Umbral Ice, you cast more Blizzards and THIS is what fills your MP bar. At higher levels it seems almost instantaneous, because Umbral Ice III has a ridiculous MP regen rate.
    Well, the party I was in claimed it refunded the whole MP bar, which is wrong if you read correctly the effect. Wanted to correct them on that point, but never had the chance since they kicked.
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  8. #38
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    SenseiSoriel's Avatar
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    Natt Windchaser
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whiteroom View Post
    Has to be a troll thread, that is a terrible way to play BLM.

    If not, the thread is a valid argument on why we need some form of parser in the game.

    Please at least read your tool tips.
    I was serious about this problem. I met many players who believed themselves gods because they had all the classes at 60, like tanks pulling so far that everyone else died and blaming the healer. Or even a white mage that caught so much agro it was almost always dead and when constructed advice was given, the mage trolled by dancing on the corpse of the person who gave advice, trolling until kicked.
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  9. #39
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    SenseiSoriel's Avatar
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    Natt Windchaser
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    Ninja Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Judah_Brandt View Post
    You realize this is a troll thread......right?
    Not a troll thread, trolls are worse. And anyway, trolling is not fun and ruins the player base, you'll know what I mean if you ever played LoL or CoD. There is a problem, and that problem is that some players got their heads so big it won't pass the doorframes anymore.
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  10. #40
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    SenseiSoriel's Avatar
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    Natt Windchaser
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by FunkyBunch View Post
    He hasn't reached end game yet. His highest character is 54.
    Though he has an impressive amount of characters around 30.

    He also hasn't had any responses to any of his previous posts. So this looks like attention grabbing/troll bait.
    It's also possible, he's just legitimately bad. I was bad too for a while. *snip, shortened for lenght*
    I'm not reaching endgame yet cause I'm waiting after some irl friends who also play the game. Also, if I don't respond as much on the forum, I'm usually in game, watching anime, working, playing other games or reading. Another note, this is not the forum I prefer the most to frequent since some posters here seem to have an attitude problem.
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