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  1. #101
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    T2teddy's Avatar
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    Fionn Iolair
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    Sargatanas
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    Black Mage Lv 60
    Yeah so what if he's got more classes than THM? The issue was his play on THM and many of the posts talking about using quelling strikes and the III spells, which he does not have. I'm not defending anything but the person's low, low level and dirth of meaningful abilities thus far.
    But I will jump on the bandwagon and agree that his lousy attitude has led to the previous comments.
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  2. #102
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    Whiteroom's Avatar
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    T'erra Branford
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by T2teddy View Post
    Yeah so what if he's got more classes than THM? The issue was his play on THM and many of the posts talking about using quelling strikes and the III spells, which he does not have. I'm not defending anything but the person's low, low level and dirth of meaningful abilities thus far.
    But I will jump on the bandwagon and agree that his lousy attitude has led to the previous comments.
    This issue is totally the way he views the game, look at his comments, do you really think his poor play is limited to THM. Another issue is that he seems to think anyone who tells him he is not playing the class well is a bully and an idiot who is unable to think and come up with their own rotations. He is low level, but he is still playing quite sub par for that level and aggressive about it.

    He brought up what he called a community issue, when really people with his outlook are one of the issues with the community.
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  3. #103
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    Puwarh's Avatar
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    Pawah Mujuuk
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 60
    I Think there is only 1 IDEAL rotation for every class and when you do that ideal to a dummy it will be king, but, when we play a content it will totally not be in an ideal situation where you can do rotation correctly. Anyway you should try the best you can to do that rotation. This will start to come to you by the classic "trial and error" or from those who have experience of the class, don't shut them up by mark them as elitist before you try what they told and you might find out you are improving. If you tried and find it worse than what you did you can discuss with them that what they did is sucks.

    And if what you stubborn to do make the whole party severely set back or make them cannot do the duty right, a kick will be expected

    I myself enjoy BLM as much as my SMN, and life in low level isn't as bad as SMN in low level I got so much frustrated in low level smn(acn) for doing quite low damage (DoT excluded) and got kicked for doing low damage from those not understand that damage from smn(acn) will come out from DoTs and pet quite a lot. BLM(THM) doesn't have this problem all that count for is the raw damage and it's nice!!
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    Last edited by Puwarh; 01-14-2016 at 04:05 PM.

  4. #104
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    Nephisto's Avatar
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    Ashmal Gamesh
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    Faerie
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    I begin to use the level 60 BLM rotation and, geez, it's not super easy during a Boss fight with a shitload of AOE. Staying in Ley Lines, not losing Enochian, etc. I know I'm not doing PERFECTLY the rotation right now, but at least I'm trying.
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  5. #105
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    FunkyBunch's Avatar
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    Imai Blackren
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    Exodus
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    Ninja Lv 71
    Quote Originally Posted by Nephisto View Post
    I begin to use the level 60 BLM rotation and, geez, it's not super easy during a Boss fight with a shitload of AOE. Staying in Ley Lines, not losing Enochian, etc. I know I'm not doing PERFECTLY the rotation right now, but at least I'm trying.
    After being 60 for a few months I guess, and I only just got my 6th F4 in yesterday. The rotation is easy to understand but there's zero room for error. The constant juggling and dodging mechanics means you have to improvise all the time. I tend to err on the side of refreshing enochian unless it's almost off cooldown.

    It'll come, but there's always room for improvement. Like when do you cast the proc F3? Do you do it while dodging a mechanic? Or do you take the boss AoE to the face?
    Aetherial Manipulation is one I'm trying to get used to using as well...
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  6. #106
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    Nephisto's Avatar
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    Ashmal Gamesh
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    Faerie
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    Quote Originally Posted by FunkyBunch View Post
    Like when do you cast the proc F3? Do you do it while dodging a mechanic? Or do you take the boss AoE to the face?
    Aetherial Manipulation is one I'm trying to get used to using as well...
    I'm using proc F3 while dodging or just before using Blizzard 3. I never take the boss AoE in the face. If I feel I'm losing time, I use it after Blizzard 4 to active Astral and then use Fire 4, but it's surely not the good way to use it, because it's a waste of DPS. It's just faster to come back to Fire 4 Yeah, me too I have to learn how to use Aetherial Manipulation, but on PS4, it's a pain. Or I just don't understand how to use it well with the controller.
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    Last edited by Nephisto; 01-15-2016 at 04:55 AM.

  7. #107
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    Cassius Murdock
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    Adamantoise
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    White Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Nephisto View Post
    I'm using proc F3 while dodging or just before using Blizzard 3. I never take the boss AoE in the face. If I feel I'm losing time, I use it after Blizzard 4 to active Astral and then use Fire 4, but it's surely not the good way to use it, because it's a waste of DPS. It's just faster to come back to Fire 4 Yeah, me too I have to learn how to use Aetherial Manipulation, but on PS4, it's a pain. Or I just don't understand how to use it well with the controller.
    Up and down on the d-pad will let you target only your party members, and will make targeting it a lot easier.
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  8. #108
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    FunkyBunch's Avatar
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    Imai Blackren
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    Exodus
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    Ninja Lv 71
    Quote Originally Posted by Nephisto View Post
    I'm using proc F3 while dodging or just before using Blizzard 3. I never take the boss AoE in the face. If I feel I'm losing time, I use it after Blizzard 4 to active Astral and then use Fire 4, but it's surely not the good way to use it, because it's a waste of DPS. It's just faster to come back to Fire 4 Yeah, me too I have to learn how to use Aetherial Manipulation, but on PS4, it's a pain. Or I just don't understand how to use it well with the controller.
    Sometimes it's better to take the AoE to the face. The trick is finding out which ones you can eat, and which ones you can't.
    Like I know I can finish this cast and then cast Manaward/Manawall to not die when the AoE hits and continue casting.

    Using the Proc can be good to either refresh AF3 (best case) or get to casting an F4 faster from UI (still good). But using Sharpcast after F3/Enochian before F4 becomes available to cast to let you use Convert->F3 proc->F4->Swiftcast F4 is awesome.

    Bascially, (from UI3, otherwise it's better to F3 first then Enochian so you don't lose 2 seconds of Enochian)->Enochian->F3->SC->F4->F4->F1->F4->F4->Convert->F3(from Proc)->F4->F4->B3->(T1-optional if you have 6+ seconds left on Enochian)->B4 is ideal.

    Right now for Aetherial Manipulation, I just macro'd it to go to nearest party member.
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  9. #109
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    UBERHAXED's Avatar
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    Seraph Khalid
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    Faerie
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    Summoner Lv 60
    Should be obvious, but if you have a Fire III proc while in UI, you shouldn't use it to enter AF, you should transpose first.
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  10. #110
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    Jamillion's Avatar
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    Calypso Celeste
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by UBERHAXED View Post
    Should be obvious, but if you have a Fire III proc while in UI, you shouldn't use it to enter AF, you should transpose first.
    IF and only if you have enough time to do so safely
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