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  1. #1
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    Mycow8me's Avatar
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    Tolby Seyfert
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    Cactuar
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    Blacksmith Lv 70
    My only problem with relics is that: They were created for the people who don't mind spending alot of time to obtain because for whatever reason, they have trouble raiding due to time/work/school/whatever. They were also apparently created for people who only have alot of money to spend. I could spend the money, but I can't bring myself to justify it.

    It's like trial of the magians on ffxi only you need a ton of gil to complete as well. Makes no sense. Why not just a rough grind and call it at that?

    I would give relic quests up in a heartbeat for a "trial of the magians" variant in FFXIV but the problem here is that gear doesn't have enough diversity to have something similar so were stuck with whatever relic quest they give us.

    Seems like alot of people are in support of this because of "communication" and whatnot. I believe everyone is willing to communicate to find crafters to make them but the problem is still that even the mats cost alot of gil. Arguably your dropping all this gil for a weapon that will only be briefly top tier till a new release and there are other things people might be wanting to save their gil for but would still like to complete relic.

    I don't consider overcoming the games economy a challenge for completing relic either (in before the players buy gil and RMT wins again!)... If they want these things to be worth obtaining in the long run, they need to actually withstand a long run in the game as well.

    NERF PLS.
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    Last edited by Mycow8me; 01-11-2016 at 11:08 PM.

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    Ewitt Rainbow
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    Balmung
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    Fisher Lv 100
    It only cost a lot right now... because everyone is trying to finish it quickly.

    In turn ... Make friends get items from content and have them craft for you.
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    Commendations.
    If I play dps I only give it out to other dps.
    If I play tank I only give it out to healers.
    If I play healer I only give it out to tank.

    Only if they should be getting a commendation.
    There are always exceptions to the rules!

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    Sam Lihzeh
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    Cactuar
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    Bard Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by hobostew View Post
    On siren the crafted portion comes just shy of 8m gil. While personally I can afford it I'm not sure I want to fork over that kind of gil for +2 weapon damage.

    People insisted that the prices were gonna drop by the time the grind was over but at least on NA servers it has stabilized at some pretty ridiculous prices.

    How are people dealing with this? Just biting the bullet? Sucking up to crafters and hoping they're feeling charitable?
    Despite the obvious flaws this presents for more casual players who don't gather or craft, as someone who profits solely off of gathering, it's kind of fulfilling that I've been able to make the gil necessary (roughly 8 mil on Coeurl as well) just due to how the markets are balanced lately. That said, there are tons of crafters on my server, so lots of people are competing for the current relic market so specific materials are super in demand.
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    Ein Vaer
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by jssanderson747 View Post
    Despite the obvious flaws this presents for more casual players who don't gather or craft, as someone who profits solely off of gathering, it's kind of fulfilling that I've been able to make the gil necessary (roughly 8 mil on Coeurl as well) just due to how the markets are balanced lately. That said, there are tons of crafters on my server, so lots of people are competing for the current relic market so specific materials are super in demand.
    Not to mention the raptorskin maps were up to 100k+ each on my server at one point. (unID items drop from them sometimes) They were usually worth around 20k before the relic was added. Easy money if you have 1 gatherer at 60 and don't care to gamble yourself.

    I'm just going to work on the relic slowly just so if they decide to make the relics better in the later steps I won't be stuck on the first step long after everyone has moved on. By the time I finish the unID items the crafted items will probably have dropped in price. There are probably people gearing their crafts right now that will be done and be able to participate in the market when I need to buy them due to the weekly nature of red scrips.
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    Last edited by Vaer; 01-12-2016 at 01:18 AM.

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    Dante Venarra
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    Jenova
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    I payed about 1.2 to 1.5 million for each set (4 items) on Jenova. Total cost was about 5.5 - 6 million range. I could definitely understand why this would be hard for people to pay. The best way if you don't have that kind of money is to get the items for the recipe and have a crafter make them for you that way. It is bit more time consuming to research and collect however it will save you substantial amount of gil.
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    Tonrak Totorak
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    Gilgamesh
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    They designed the Relic for players with a lot of time and to make it relatively casual. The high gil cost is there to as another time sink (and gil sink) since players will have to do __ to get enough gil.
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    Flo Fyloord
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    It's not a Gil sink if it's not taking the Gil out of market circulation, just as a note.
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    Lucky Tails
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    Brynhildr
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    I've actually just given up on the relic!

    I've never had more than 450k gil to my name from the day I started playing until now. I'm not going to be rolling in the dough anytime soon, I guarantee that.

    Also, WHM is my main and... to be honest, well, I've gotten a little burnt out on healing all the time. I wanna DPS, and my DPS choice is level 35

    Besides, there's no point working that hard for a relic that takes SECOND PLACE!!! next to the weapons you can get from simply raiding.
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    Three Ilm Knights, One Thousand Malm Road

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    Muhau Nbolo
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    Mateus
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kikoten View Post
    Besides, there's no point working that hard for a relic that takes SECOND PLACE!!! next to the weapons you can get from simply raiding.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gordian Axe
    76 WD
    68 DET
    102 SS
    Quote Originally Posted by Ukonvasara
    76 WD
    DET97
    CRIT71
    Not sure about you, but the Anima axe is better than the Gordion one. :P
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    Brynhildr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eidolon View Post
    Not sure about you, but the Anima axe is better than the Gordion one. :P
    In a few months the relic won't be at the top anymore, or so I heard. SQE is planning to add new raid weapons, which overshadow the relic.

    I'd rather sink [less] time into getting THAT weapon than slam my face against a brick wall for 4, 5 hours per day just to get a few ingredients, and then eventually have to pay over one million, two million, five million, eight million gil to a bunch of greedy people just for a weapon that comes in... I'm gonna say it... second place.
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    Last edited by Kikoten; 01-12-2016 at 03:35 AM.
    Three Ilm Knights, One Thousand Malm Road

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