Quote Originally Posted by MeiUshu View Post
As far as know, Bahamut coil was added in DF and wasnt nerfed when it went there, I did go up to t7 or t8 ant remember THROUGH DF, see my point.
When it was just added, a lot of experienced people were there just for giggles, so you had a fair chance to have a good party there. After that is was nerfed to the ground.

Fcob is currently in DF too, but it is with echo, and it is a major difference. Try t13 without echo and without war, sch and mnk in group (for example, you have 2 pld, 2 whm, etc). You just won't survive gigaflare there because party doesn't have mitigations. 20% echo fixes this. Same will be with a3s - you won't survive cascades in some parties until they introduce echo (a4s - mortal revolution after 4-th leg).