Quote Originally Posted by Pence View Post
I had all my jobs (DoW/M) leveled in 1.0 (maybe not war/pld? can't remember), and again in 2.0 - and geared. Not to mention you don't even have all your jobs leveled? NOR do my current levels alter how fast anyone can obtain gear.

And what does that even have to do with anything? You only need 1 job leveled and geared to know how long it takes. Heck, after your first job every other job is even faster!
Between 2 alts (and I have more than 2) along I have 11 level 60 all decked out with minimum ilv183, 3 level 60 crafter and 1 level 60 gatherer, and recently I just bought a medium house.
And on top of that I have a full time job which requires me to do over time sometimes. So unless you are in the same situation and a completionist you don't know what it's like.

And no, you can't just level 1 job and know how long it'll take or what it's like, that's like run for 10 mins and say you know what a marathon feels like.

And the gear conversation is over, I see your point on alternative gearing. Aside from weapons I agree armor and accessory are easy to obtain in a reliable fashion. If weapon like ex primal is to be considered then pugs will need to be put into equation, which can go your way or my way depends on your group quality and time availablilty.